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Topic: Best Beginner E9 material |
Bob Sehy
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New York, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2011 4:29 am |
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| So I have an old Sho-Bud Professional, Peavy 112, etc. and Im ready to go. The guitar has 8 pedals and 2 levers. Can anyone recommend a course of study tha uses this older combination of levers/pedals? Some need 4 or so, I have the Jernigan e9 course and think it might be fine, but im just checking to see if theres anything elso (old sho-bud course etc.) |
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Ray Anderson
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Jenkins, Kentucky USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2011 5:39 am beginner E9
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Hello Bob, I too am a newbie and had to find suitable materials for practice and may I highly recommend to you the Jeff Newman materials they are without a doubt the best I've come across and I have bought a plenty that were not worth throwing in the trash. One that helped me most was the Up from the top D-lever series. I learned more in two weeks with this than I learned in 7 months with the others, not everyone can teach effectively. JMHO Hope this helps.   |
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Frank Freniere
From:
The First Coast
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Posted 16 Jul 2011 6:40 am
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| Anything/everything Jeff Newman. |
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Dickie Whitley
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Posted 16 Jul 2011 8:12 am
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I second the two above, Jeff Newman.
http://www.jeffran.com/
I have just about all his videos and some other stuff too.
Hope this helps. |
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Jack Ritter
From:
Enid, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2011 8:41 am
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Count me in with Frank and Dickie. Mickey Adams also has some great material. Jack
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Ray Anderson
From:
Jenkins, Kentucky USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2011 1:13 pm E9 material
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| I will admit without reservation that Mickey Adams is great, and I've learned a lot from his clips. I have not had the privilage to view the Winnie Winston book yet and I'm sure that it too is great material. I am not down on all the up to date teachers but I have a collection of garbage that I paid good money for and as for my help and concern, they are worthless to me. I am saying for beginners to stick with the old standbys and be selective about materials before you spend your hard earned money. The Newman material was like flipping a switch in my head. If you can't see it before hand then don't buy it. Newbies are people too, JMHO. |
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Mark van Allen
From:
Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 16 Jul 2011 9:23 pm
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A big plus one for Winnie's book...
Among other things, it was written when many guitars only had two knee levers, and addresses the idea of adding or compensating for changes you may not yet have.
With any instruction material you have, really try to understand the moves that are being presented, and try to figure out other ways to get the same changes. For example, many of the licks the E to F lever enables can be performed with slants.
The Newman material is really solid and useful. Can't go wrong there.
Don't fall into the perception that you can't play lots of music on a guitar with 2 knees, because you can! |
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Steve Lipsey
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 10:49 am
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| Which one is the "Up from the top D-lever series" from Newman? Can't figure out which course this is... |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 10:56 am
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I also learned from Winnie's book.
There's a lot of excellent material out there. It's impossible to say which is "the best." All I can say is that Winnie's book is very good. Especially if you have a guitar with just one knee lever.
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Joseph Barcus
From:
Volga West Virginia
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Gary Cosden
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 12:33 pm
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1. Winniw Winstons Book
2. Mickey Adams
3. Lots of great free stuff here: http://pedalsteel.com/joe/
4. Mickey Adams |
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Ray Anderson
From:
Jenkins, Kentucky USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 1:38 pm E9 material
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| Up from the top is a lesson on the F scale and using the D lever. It came with the tab book, videoand practice track. The one I have is an older version with a VHS, Cassette Tape practice track, but it is offered in a more modern format with DVD and CD with tab book. The D lever is crucial and now I know how to use it. Great stuff. |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 3:03 pm
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Most of the beginners books are good. But first I suggest you start with technique and for that I would
suggest getting a pick blocking plus book to start with.
I would think if it works for Paul Franklin then it's good enough for me.
Also everyone mentioned here has contributed good learning media.
However after the pick blocking plus book the best thing IMHO going on right now for information and to get your practice sessions for the week off to a good start is the live sessions every Saturday 1:00 pm Est time with William Litaker.
It's only $5. Every Week you get one or two exercises, a couple of great Intros. Then of course a complete song of choice with extra verse and chorus which takes about 3 weeks to complete but by that time in addition to one complete song you have six great exercises, six really excellent intros which it is really hard to learn all that in 3 weeks.
There is more than enough material to keep your practices organized and busy not to mention the stupidly low price of it all.
William makes up the worksheets and sends them out early and then on Saturday just turns on the camera a lets it fly in his wonderful unassuming down home way. Anything can happen and usually does!
It's worth the $5 just for the pure entertainment of it all.
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Joseph Barcus
From:
Volga West Virginia
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Jim Palenscar
From:
Oceanside, Calif, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 5:32 pm
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| Also the Intros and Turnarounds #'s 1 and 2 by Buddy Emmons as well as Half Dozen Shuffles. |
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John Turbeville
From:
Carlsbad, ca
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 5:50 pm
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Let me tell you, I started with up from the top and drop the PSG (sold it) for a few years as I got frustrated. Then I picked up another PSG and got this goofy and simple DVD on Ebay for 10$-something like pedal steel guitar for guitar players-I used that and got me to the point where I could play pretty easily but just the basics. Heres a link (http://cgi.ebay.com/Pedal-Steel-Guitar-Lessons-E9-Guitar-Players-DVD-/310331433828?pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item484131e364).
I then used the william litaker DVD and it got me further. I am now playing out often with a couple of different groups on PSG and 6 string. Keep in mind the recommendations you are getting are mostly from advanced players and well intentioned as most here are great folks. Their perspective is different than a starting player. Im just telling you what worked for me.
At the stage Im at now I think the Neuman materials would be excellent. I just think the PSG can be intimidating at the start and turns many off, its not that difficult in perspective of course you want to be a world class player.....but then again what instrument is easy in that light. PM me if you have any more questions. |
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Joseph Barcus
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Volga West Virginia
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 6:01 pm
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the mistake I made was wanting to learn the lick but not stopping to figure out the why is it played this way. what I mean is if you take the time to understand the instrument in front of you, why its tuned this way,why does this pedal do this and so on. then it will make you a lot better a lot faster. its all about scales thats the main factor. yes they are boring to learn and while you are sitting there working on them you may fall asleep lol. so sometimes its best to sit and let your mind work around these questions let it soak for a while then try it out see what you come up with. blocking will come down the road but still you must try to work on it as well but with blocking the more you think about it the worse you get trying to do it. and well both palm and pick blocking will come into play has a lot to do with the songs you are playing. dont push to hard on the bar that will pull you out of tune. take your tuner and place your bar on the strings hit a note see if you are im tune that will get you used to where you need to be, just a few pointers hope this was not to long
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John Turbeville
From:
Carlsbad, ca
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 6:12 pm
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| Joeseph, thats exactly right. Learning to play a lick instead of understanding where it fits into the theory and how can use it it when you are improvising. I wanted to get to the point where I could jam on my own, once you get there on any instrument you can learn on your own. |
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John Turbeville
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Carlsbad, ca
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 6:14 pm
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| One more thing, Im not a big country fan but I love don williams.....go figure....but I play his best of CD over and over again and play across it. Its a great way yo learn. |
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David Beckner
From:
Kentucky, USA
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Posted 17 Jul 2011 6:30 pm
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MIKE ARCHER....JOE BARCUS..MICKEY ADAMS..WILLIAM LITAKER...
NEED I SAY MORE????
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Bob Sehy
From:
New York, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 5:53 am
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| Thanks for all the feedback, I just ordered the Pedal Steel Guitar Techniques and Right Hand Alpha videos from Fran at Jeffran college. Sounded like exactly what I need to get going. |
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William Johnson
From:
Statesboro, Georgia, USA
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Posted 19 Jul 2011 9:24 am
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My problem has been that there is so much learning material out there, its hard to settle on 1 or 2 and sticking with them.
Why don't we vote on the best FREE PSG teaching material in several groups like: 1. Beginners; 2. Intros, Walk up/down, Fills; 3. PSG Related Music Theory.
I'll start a new thread with this topic.
Thank all for this forum, as it is a great place for PSG players!
Later,
billy
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Statesboro, GA
Sho Bud Student / Emmons DB E9
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Louie Hallford
From:
denison tx
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Posted 15 Aug 2011 4:32 pm
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I'm 72 years old.....bought my first material from Jeff over thirty years ago You can't go wrong with it .
I still miss him and his little smart aleck ways of motivating his students.....so sad that he left us so early and so tragically.. |
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Alain-Yves Pigeon
From:
Quebec, Canada
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Posted 15 Aug 2011 7:18 pm
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Bob and Ray, get any Jeff Newman courses and if you're ever able to get this much too hard to get course by Buddy Emmons, GET IT!!! Dunno if it's still available from Emmons Guitars.
http://www.buddyemmons.com/LTP.htm
That's among the best learning material I've had. Herby Wallace and Mike Archer also have real good material for newcomers.
Have fun,
ayp
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