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Topic: ShoBud coil tap switch |
Todd Brown
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Posted 14 May 2011 4:58 pm |
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Sending the original single coil off the E9 neck of my ProII to Jerry Wallace for a rewind job and he's gonna tap it. Its an Early 80's model and there doesn't seem to be enough room on the inside/underside of the end plate to install the switch , kinda tight with the neck selector switch ,input jack already squeezed in between the 2 changers.
I'm hoping some of you have some experience with this. I know i've seen lots of Buds from the 70's era with the 2 tap switches usually located on the end plate below the cut out for the E9 changer. Don't recall from memory any 80's models having the coil taps.Hope someone can help! |
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Jay Jessup
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Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 14 May 2011 5:13 pm
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| This advice is not going to be very helpful if you have your heart set on adding the coil tap but most Buds that I have had my hand on have the coil tap at about half the value of the untapped position. For example if untapped is 20K the tapped is 10.5K or something close to that. You can get a good tone out of both but it takes a major resetting of the amp to do so which essentially means you can only use one at a time. Others may certainly have some better advice but I played a 74 Pro-III full time for about five years and never found a use for the tapped position. |
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Todd Brown
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W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 14 May 2011 7:24 pm
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| Thanks Jay, that's something I've already considered. Still got got my mind set on tapping that pickup! |
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James Morehead
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Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 14 May 2011 9:17 pm
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Todd, You just flip your switch to coil tap. You should never have to readjust your amp, unless you just happen to want to do so, and that's cool, like Jay does. The coil tap will give you a bit of that '60's sound. Maybe a little bit of an acoustical tone.
Email me, and I'll show you how to mount the switches without having to drill your endplates.
shobud@windstream.net
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Bill Terry
From:
Bastrop, TX
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Posted 16 May 2011 7:50 am
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I found the coil taps pretty useful, without having to change the amp settings, but that was just me.. Here's how they look on an early round front Pro II, if that's any help.
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James Morehead
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Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 16 May 2011 8:22 am
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Bill, You can make a third tap yet if you leave your neck selector switch in the middle, leaving both necks on. Put a polish rag on the C6th if you are using the E9 neck, so you do not pick up noise with your shirt sleeve. Gives more of an acousticla tone, if that makes sence.
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Bill Terry
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Bastrop, TX
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Posted 16 May 2011 8:30 am
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James, yes, I discovered that 'both pickups on' tone by accident. It's useful, and with the combination of that and the coil taps, there's quite a variety of tones there. (I refuse to do the math..  ) I agree it's kind of more 'woody' sounding or something...
I've since sold that guitar, but the coil taps are one of the things I miss.
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John Swain
From:
Winchester, Va
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Posted 16 May 2011 8:34 am
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| My 1980 ShoBud Superpro had a mini switch and mini tone pot in holes bored very much like the above Pro11 picture..Take a look at some Superpro pix!JS |
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Todd Brown
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W. Columbia , South Carolina
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Posted 16 May 2011 3:44 pm
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James , thanks for all the help. Really cool how you mounted the switch underneath.
Bill, just how your switches are placed is what I was referring to .
And like John mentioned the early 80's Super Pro's,seen those with the tap ,but these have taller endplates ,which creates more room under the cut out for the E9 neck.Like I said above ,dont recall ever seeing a Early 80's model Pro I,or Pro II ,or III that has the tap switches. If anybody has one of these models with the tap on the endplate, I'd like to see it.
As for putting the neck selector switch in the both necks ON position, done that a few times experimenting in the past and a few times unintentionally ,to me just seemed like a weaker signal coming through,not as loud, no real tone change! |
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Elton Smith
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Texas, USA
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Posted 19 May 2011 3:33 pm
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I didn't know you could tap a single coil.The only thing you can do is reverse poles for that tinny sound.A true coil tap as I understand it is turning a humbucker to a single coil.I have a Paul reed smith guitar with every coil tap you can think of ,but it has humbuckers.
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 19 May 2011 6:47 pm
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| I didn't know you could tap a single coil.The only thing you can do is reverse poles for that tinny sound.A true coil tap as I understand it is turning a humbucker to a single coil.I have a Paul reed smith guitar with every coil tap you can think of ,but it has humbuckers. |
What "tinny sound" are you referring to?
Shobud and ZB and Emmons, and others were coiltapping singlecoils back in the '50's and '60's. Coiltap is nothing more than tapping into a pickup's coil at certain intervals to get different sounds. Example: you might have a singlecoil pickup wound to 18.5K and coil tap it at 11K. Back in the "day", they referred to them as "dual-coil" pickups. ZB's had triple coils.
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Jerry Hedge
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Norwood Ohio U.S.A.
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Posted 20 May 2011 5:56 pm
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| Elton, you are confusing a coil SPLIT with a coil TAP. A split is when you turn off a coil from a humbucker to get a single coil sound. A coil tap is when you tap into a pickup to get a lower impedance. The PRS guitars have coil split, the old Sho-Buds and ZBs had a coil tap. |
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Elton Smith
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Texas, USA
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Posted 23 May 2011 6:14 pm
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I stand corrected.But they call that a coil tap on most 6 strings.There is another term which is very close but I can't think what it was ,so I thought they were the same .Thanks guys Elbo
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