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Topic: Is this LDG worth picking up? |
Kevin Kadish
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Posted 17 May 2011 9:24 pm |
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I found a guy who is selling an LDG, which is great because i have been looking for one, but i am fairly new to steel guitar and am not 100% sure what i should be looking for (i.e. signs that things are not quite right with it). Can someone please tell me if everything looks okay on this guitar? It seems to have a bunch of extra screw holes in the under carriage.
Thanks guys!
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Clyde Lane
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Glasgow, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 18 May 2011 3:36 am
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Kevin that is about a 1978 big body, square front with Super Pro undercarriage. I have one just like it, except for color, that I bought new. They have that SHO-Bud sound. The only problem is the "pot metal" parts.
I think most of the holes in the bottom are from the factory. You can tell if there was ever a screw in them or not.
Parts are available and not too expensive.
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David Nugent
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Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 18 May 2011 3:36 am
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This appears to be a later model, 'Super Pro' era LDG. The main problem with guitars from this period is the use of pot metal in the undercarriage parts, especially the knee levers and brackets. This normally results in the parts failing over time and needing replacement... Judging by the amount of finish fading(note the brownish areas around the changer, keyhead, and rear pad), it would appear that the guitar has had at least some exposure to sunlight either by being played outdoors or left set up near a window... The holes were most likely left when a lever was removed....Hope this helps.,,Sorry for the duplicate information, Clyde and I were evidently posting at the same time.
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Geoff Marshall
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North Lincolnshire U,K.
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Posted 18 May 2011 3:40 am
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| Well I wish it was mine. I had one identical that I regetably sold in the mid 90's. The finish is unfaded and looks, as the rest of it in great condition for a 30 year old. The aluminium will polish up but not to a mirror finish which is common with bud castings. The holes in the undercarriage look to be from customising the pedal and lever positions, so no detriment. The only downside to this vintage of L.D.G. is the pot metal parts which can break. I had two lever brackets snap on mine due to the guitar being subjected to being taken from a very cold environment to a very warm one. There could also be wear in the changer due to the poor spec of the metal which could cause it to lock up eventually. Having said that the are many who swear by these pot metal buds and parts are easily available. I believe a Forum member is in serious production of quality show Bud parts. There is also the question of cost. Off the top of my head I would say 2000 give or take. Good Luck. |
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Kevin Kadish
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Nashville, TN
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Posted 18 May 2011 5:33 am
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Thanks for all the help guys... I'm still not sure what to do. He's asking $1700. Seems like a good price.
I just wonder if "pot metal" is s big enough deterrent. |
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Ronnie Boettcher
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Brunswick Ohio, USA
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Posted 18 May 2011 6:19 am
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If I were in the market for a LDG, I would buy it. Mine is before the pot metal, but it wouldnt stop me. You might have a few extra holes in the wood. I have some too, because I changed the 2 left knee positions. You have to have the pedals, and knees in the right place for "YOU", not for someone else. The holes that look like they are drilled, but never screwed into, are made generic, from the factory. IF YOU LOOK AT THE 8, OR 10, HOLES THAT ARE MADE UNDER THE PAD, THEY ARE AIR HOLES FOR THE PAD. There are 4, or 5, in pairs, the length of the pad.
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 18 May 2011 4:01 pm
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Kevin you can get replacement knee lever brackets from Jeff Surratt at Show Pro if you need them .. the bracket is about the only part that is likely to fail and are easily replaced. Looks like a pretty good deal to me - go for it mate.
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James Morehead
From:
Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 19 May 2011 10:52 am
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This is the bomb, if you want a REAL LDG. Barrels behind two hole puller undercarrage and changer, roundfront and wide pedals---the real deal, and dirt cheap, too.
http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=205045
The square front, pot metal ones do not hold a candle to the first year run roundfronts. Of course, there are those who would disagree with me, 
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Gary Preston
From:
Columbus, Ohio, USA
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Posted 19 May 2011 2:02 pm
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| [b]I have two of the buds with the pot metal brackets . They are fine as long as you dont abuse them as with any other guitar . I have only broke one bracket and most of that was my fault . Dont let that keep you from buying the bud . They are great guitars . |
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Kevin Kadish
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 19 May 2011 2:04 pm
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| Thanks guys! |
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Kevin Kadish
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 20 May 2011 11:34 am
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| Damn EBAY! Some knucklehead snaked it from me! Still Looking for one. |
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Kevin Kadish
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 20 May 2011 5:00 pm
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Bump for More LDGs out there.  |
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Stephen Cordingley
From:
Ontario, Canada
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Posted 21 May 2011 7:31 am
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with all due respect, you can't blame Ebay or the buyer...
the game on the Bay is all about knowing your stuff, knowing the prices, having the dough, and pulling the trigger...
I do, however, feel your pain; I've been in your shoes. All you can do is start looking for the next deal. Happy hunting! |
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Kevin Kadish
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 21 May 2011 7:34 am
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| What i meant was that i was e-sniped. i was the only bidder until 2 seconds left in the auction (i.e. "snaked") |
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Erv Niehaus
From:
Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 21 May 2011 7:43 am
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| You put your max. bid up high enough that even if you get sniped, the sniper doesn't have time enough to get in another bid. |
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James Morehead
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Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 21 May 2011 8:14 am
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Like Stephen says, you were simply out bid. "sniped" makes it sound like you were wronged. Not true.
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Frank Freniere
From:
The First Coast
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Posted 21 May 2011 8:20 am
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| Beautiful flamed birdseye on the underside... did Sho-Bud ever make a blonde LDG??? |
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James Morehead
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Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 21 May 2011 8:33 am
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Not that I've seen, Frank, though there might be a "cusstom order" LDG that's blonde out there some where. Gotta love that birdseye!!
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Kevin Kadish
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 21 May 2011 10:58 am
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| thanks for the tip. i don't use ebay a lot... next time i'll put in a max bid. |
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David Nugent
From:
Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 21 May 2011 12:17 pm
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| Kevin...This may have been a blessing in disguise. There have been more than a few horror stories related on this Forum concerning guitars purchased on e-bay. Purchasing a guitar from a reputable dealer, or one that is offered for sale by a Forum member is a much safer bet. |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 22 May 2011 3:22 am
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| Stephen Cordingley wrote: |
with all due respect, you can't blame Ebay or the buyer...
the game on the Bay is all about knowing your stuff, knowing the prices, having the dough, and pulling the trigger...
I do, however, feel your pain; I've been in your shoes. All you can do is start looking for the next deal. Happy hunting! |
No different than a live auction..
the auction takes place when the guy yells
going once, twice... you have until "going three times" to get in the game... It's not sniping , it's bidding...there is no DEAL till it's over, thee is no final price till it's over and the go yells SOLD..
EBAY has a count down clock..same thing Next time set your max price, put it in and don't look back, there are no DEALS on EBAY.... items sell at value....you are not getting that $40,000 Corvette for $12,500...
Snipers, which is a bad name, actually help maintain the actual value until the very end, they do not bid up the amount.
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Doyle Mitchell
From:
Loraine, Texas
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Posted 22 May 2011 6:21 am
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| Kevin, sorry you missed that bud, but I have been an auctioneer since 1980 and Tony is right, sometimes people that can not be at the auction will leave sealed bids to open after the live bidding has stopped, the auction then becomes between the sealed bids and the highest wins, providing no one in the crowd wants to go higher. I wish you had won it, but remember James Moorehead can solve any problem you might find on a shobud and his price is right, so if you find one thats needs repair and the price is reasonable..... grab it, they are getting hard to come by. good luck, Doyle |
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Kevin Kadish
From:
Nashville, TN
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Posted 22 May 2011 6:55 am
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| thanks for all of your input. |
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