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Topic: Newbie with pedals on wrong? side |
Matt Eich
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Illinois, USA
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Posted 4 May 2011 11:51 am |
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If I have three levers on my GFI student, two of which are on the right instead of the left this means _______.
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Ryan Barwin
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 4 May 2011 12:22 pm
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As long as you have a lever to raise strings 4 and 8 to F, one to lower 4 and 8 to D#, and one to lower string 2 to D, then it doesn't matter where the levers are.
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Mike Perlowin
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Los Angeles CA
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Posted 4 May 2011 12:34 pm Re: Newbie with pedals on wrong? side
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If I have three levers on my GFI student, two of which are on the right instead of the left this means _______.
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It means you need one more. As Ryan said, it doesn't matter which change goes on what knee lever, but you do need a 4th one. 5 would be even better.
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Matt Eich
From:
Illinois, USA
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Posted 4 May 2011 12:35 pm
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| Thank you sir. I was getting confused watching videos. |
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Stuart Legg
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Posted 5 May 2011 7:11 pm
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Wrong topic, I think but again I'm not sure what happen.
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Steve English
From:
Baja, Arizona
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Posted 5 May 2011 8:25 pm
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Matt,
It does make a difference where the changes on your knee levers are located. For instance, you wouldn't want the change on the LKR to raise the E's to F if you play a standard "Emmons" pedal setup. Likewise, you wouldn't want that change on your LKL if you played a "Day" pedal setup. The point being that there are preferred positions for knee levers so that they work in tandem with your pedals.
If your guitar raises the E's to F's on your LKL, lowers your E's to Eb's on your RKL, and lowers the 2nd string on your RKR, and you have the standard Emmons pedal setup; pedal A raises B's to C#'s, pedal B raises G#'s to A's, and pedal C raises the 4th and 5th strings........you're good to go.
The two right knee levers could even be reversed and you'd still be playing a setup that is used by some.
If your guitar lowers the E's on the LKR, and raises the F's on one of your right knees, you're good to go.
With the setup you have, you would have very few, if any, limitations playing steel guitar, and most likely less complications with tuning issues.
My guess is that if you posted your pedal and lever setup, we'd all find that you have a very common 3 pedal/3 knee lever setup. Most steels are somewhat personalized with any more changes than this, and most of us have to deal with the same issues you're dealing with in reference to any instruction material.
I didn't see any reference to a Stage One, or pull-release in any posts other than Stuart's.  |
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joe wright
From:
Jackson, Michigan
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Posted 10 May 2011 10:03 am
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Steve,
Lloyd Green's bud has the F lever on LKR...
Of course it is easier to have it on the same side as your A pedal but your body should learn the moves in the abstract and then learn their function.
There are four ankle positions over any two pedals. Learn to move your ankle to and from all the positions. Then learn to play any pedal with any knee lever. It can be done. For instance, play 6, 8, 10 fret 10 with Bpedal and Flever. Then slide to fret 6 and then resolve to fret 8 no pedals. That's awkward on the Emmons set-up, but it can be done. Lift your heel off the floor when you hit the lever...joe |
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Steve English
From:
Baja, Arizona
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Posted 11 May 2011 12:14 pm
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Joe,
I'm sure there's truth to what you say.......however,
I can pat my head and rub my tummy at the same time, but have yet to a practical application for that......
P.S. I'm a huge fan of yours  and Lloyd! |
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Dave Hopping
From:
Aurora, Colorado
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Posted 11 May 2011 12:53 pm
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My old Mullen S110 3X3 has 2 KL's on the right(my right as I'm sitting behind it) and one on the left.
Emmons setup,with RKR dropping the 2nd string,RKL dropping the E's and LKL raising them.Works just fine. |
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