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Topic: The Steel players position on stage. |
Bo Borland
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Posted 16 Apr 2011 4:16 pm |
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I was watching a Vince Gill /Players video and noticed Paul was right next to the drummer and it brought this to mind.
Lately it's become a real drag playing on small stages and having to be crammed in tight and sitting with my ears at cymbal level.
This week I set up stage right facing across the stage and far away from the drummer.. I loved it!
Now if I can only get the lead players to face their amps at themselves. |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 16 Apr 2011 4:46 pm
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| Now if I can only get the lead players to face their amps at themselves. |
Yes, then they will immediately cancel each other out creating instant Valhalla on the stage …...  |
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Billy Tonnesen
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R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 16 Apr 2011 8:26 pm
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| Smaller groups tend to put the Steel and Lead Guitar player on opposite sides of the Stage. However, if they can be pretty much side by side it's much easier to split up choruses and fills, and/or playing something together. You can hear what each other is doing and not be clashing. IMHO. |
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2011 7:34 am
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| You guys may have noticed my tinnitus threads,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 17 Apr 2011 11:16 am
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"Cymbals should be banned."
I was so happy when the drummer switched to an electronic kit! Too late for me though. And we weren't that loud of a band. But those cymbals,,,, always angled at your ears,,,,,,,, My tinnitus is louder than people speak. So they always think I'm deaf. |
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Bo Borland
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Posted 17 Apr 2011 11:20 am
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I'm not sure about banning cymbals.. but I do like a drummer that uses a "wood" block instead of a snare when the snare is not really needed.
I tried ear plugs but I didn't like them .
Another problem is guitar players that move away from their normal spot, then turn up the guitar to hear it..
I had a soundman that would drop you out of your in ear monitor mix if you got too loud. |
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Kevin Hatton
From:
Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 17 Apr 2011 11:29 am
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| I played with a rock cymbal smasher for 7 years. Despised it. People ask me why I'm not playing. Watch Harry Stinson on The Marty Stuart Show. There's a REAL drummer with touch. |
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Tor Arve Baroy
From:
Norway
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Posted 17 Apr 2011 11:46 pm
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In ear monitor solves everything
I started using it a few years ago and love it! 
The drummers and guitar players can play as loud as they want! |
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Owen Barnes
From:
Utopia, Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2011 6:04 am
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I HAD to move to opposite side of stage from the lead player (a wanna be rock star in a country band), because he just doesn't understand sharing of "rides", but mostly, doesn't understand that volume control has a setting less than 10.
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David Mason
From:
Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2011 2:04 pm
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I agree about cymbals, those drummers with an array of ride cymbals that do nothing towards keeping time or playing a specific beat - in fact they seem to have an opposite effect! When more than half your stage room is taken up by the drummer... I was very lucky to escape the rock bassist profession with only some slight hearing loss in my left ear. Steelers and bassists unite! Let's put the singer back there for a while.  |
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Dave Grafe
From:
Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 18 Apr 2011 3:17 pm
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| Steelers and bassists unite! Let's put the singer back there for a while. |
Better yet, let's make the drummers sing! |
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Twayn Williams
From:
Portland, OR
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Posted 18 Apr 2011 3:23 pm
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I always play on the front line, right side of the stage. That way I can keep an eye cocked on the band leader while I'm watching my left hand. I won't sit next to a drummer. No one should sit ear level with a drummer's cymbals, no matter how sensitive of a drummer they may be.
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James Marlowe
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2011 3:41 pm
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I played a short outside gig last Sat. with a good band (don't know what I was doing there). I sat right next to the lead guitar and in front of the drums. We were on a pick up sized flat bed trailer...not a lot of room. Believe it or not I loved the set up. The drummer was very good and I hardly noticed him. The leader had the playing order arranged already, but it was nice being close to the other picker to communicate.
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Elton Smith
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 18 Apr 2011 6:43 pm
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Huh! What did yall say? LOL
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Ron Scott
From:
Michigan
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Posted 19 Apr 2011 6:45 am
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Thanks to all who posted how I feel about Symbals.I have complained about this for a long time when I was playing out a lot and everyone assumed I did not like drummers. I don't like Symbals they are very hard to play over and the damage to the ear is more important. RS 
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Jim Cooley
From:
The 'Ville, Texas, USA
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Posted 19 Apr 2011 9:08 am
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Cymbals should be banned.  |
Could we get away with slipping the drummer some Cymbalta? |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 20 Apr 2011 6:22 am
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| Watch Harry Stinson on The Marty Stuart Show. There's a REAL drummer with touch |
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Harry is the Gold Standard IMO.  |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 20 Apr 2011 9:38 am
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| far right side of the stage looking out is best. then no one walks on your cords and effects or kicks over your drink. |
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Larry King
From:
Watts, Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 20 Apr 2011 9:46 am
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| Chris.....are you saying right side as the player views the crowd or right side as the crowd views the player ? Thx |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 20 Apr 2011 10:18 am
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player's view...
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 20 Apr 2011 3:32 pm
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| Chris, looks like you may have a most aromatic vantage point ….. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2011 3:24 am
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Drum pounding and cymbal smashing should be banned..
A lighter touch is required..
My new drummer plays a Zen Drum and its nice..
Wireless and he can walk out into the audience.
I also have the tinnitus.
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Gordon Borland
From:
San Antonio, Texas, USA
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Posted 21 Apr 2011 8:31 am Happy
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| I am an amateur and have been since 1963 when I started playing in bands and have played for little or nothing just to play in a band and be on stage. I have owned a steel since 1988 but I won't say I can play it because I have seen and heard people that can. The drum pounding and cymbal crashing drummer in my band is an amateur too. The singer could be a pro. The bass player is a professional. That is all he does for a living is play bass. Even he changes cord structures in songs that drive me up the wall. We have been together for twenty years and get very nice gigs. The point is that if your going to join a nudest colony your probably going to be naked and see and be some offensive stuff. |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 24 Apr 2011 7:01 pm
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I sit next to the drummer, he is on a riser with a drum sheild, i laughed at it at first, but i smile now, we run an ampless stage, it keeps the volume wars at bay, but..... yeah, crash crash crash, years of 'Oh no' have me smiling.
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