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Topic: Patsy's "Lovin in Vain" with Jimmy Day |
Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 5 Mar 2011 3:00 pm |
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It' frustrating... I'm trying to figure out Jimmy Day's steel break in this tune, and every time the tune comes to the steel break all I can do is sit back and listen... 
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Mike Kowalik
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San Antonio,Texas
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Posted 23 Mar 2011 3:17 am steel break.....
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Can't help with the steel break but the player is Ben Keith........
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robert kramer
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Nashville TN
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Posted 23 Mar 2011 7:34 am
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Discography from - The Patsy Cline Collection MCAD4-10421
BEN KEITH – PATSY CLINE 1960 SESSIONS – DECCA RECORDS
November 16, 1960, (14:20-17:30) Columbia Studios, 804 16th Avenue South, Nashville, Tennessee; Producer: Owen Bradley
PATSY CLINE: vocals; HAROLD RAY BRADLEY: 6-string electric bass; WALTER “Hank” “Sugarfoot” GARLAND: electric guitar; RANDY HUGHES: acoustic guitar; BEN S. “Ben Keith” SCHAEUFELE: steel guitar; DOUGLAS G. KIRKHAM: drums; BOB L. MOORE: bass; HARGUS M. “Pig” ROBBINS: piano; THE JORDANAIRES: vocal chorus.
I FALL TO PIECES - De 31205
(Hank Cochran-Harlan Howard)
SHOES - De DL-4045
(Hank Cochran-Velma Smith)
LOVIN’ IN VAIN - De 31205
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 23 Mar 2011 8:11 am Loving In Vain
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Ray, I don't know if this will help at all, I only listened to it a couple times(all the time I had). Thought this was pretty close. Of course he played quite a bit more on the break. I think I could use this with a little embellishment. Dick Sexton...
Loving In Vain-Steel Break in “D” by Patsy Cline
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvu5LD3Vyws
This is a basic take on this break, not knowing what his copedant was, is pretty much how I would play it. I might add some embellishment, but this is pretty close.
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2______________________|________________________________________________
3_______8__10__10--10B__|__10--10B--10--8_________________________________
4_______________________|________________________10_____________________
5__8_______10__10--10A__|__10--10A--10--8A______________----12A____________
6_______________________|___________________10________----12B____________
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Then play this…..
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3__________________10--10B___10--9--8____________________________________
4_____________________________________8--10_____________________________
5___12A--10A--10____10--10A___10--9--8_____________________________________
6___12B--10B--10_______________________8--10_____________________________
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 23 Mar 2011 9:04 am
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On a modern 10 string E9, which I don't think Ben Keith had then, the first 7 bars would be on strings 4,5,6, using just the A pedal. Then in bar 8, mash both pedals on strings 3,4,5.
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 23 Mar 2011 10:33 am
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| what are all those lines and dots? |
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 23 Mar 2011 11:39 am Wow!
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Talk about getting it wrong... 
I'm sorry Ray...
Back to my cave! |
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Ray Minich
From:
Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 28 Mar 2011 4:06 am
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Thank you all for your responses and information.
And thanks for correcting me that the steeler was Ben Keith. For far too long I thought it was Jimmy Day.
I find the steel break fascinating. I have found a location on the C6th neck where "sound alike" tones can be made, but the run at the end of the break is elusive.
Earnest, that looks like it might work. Thanks a bunch.
Thanks again.
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