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Doug Murray

 

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Texas, USA (AKA God's Country! LOL)
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2011 3:57 pm    
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I was just wondering if anyone has ever had a problem with the LKL bending TOO MUCH when they use it with the A pedal? I have to keep rebending it back into shape pretty much when I get done playing Ocean Front Property! LOL Please let me know if anyone has seen this before. Was also wondering if it ever happens on other steels too. Or maybe I am pushing on it too much. Let me know what ya thank. Thanks
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Doug Murray 1976 Fender Dual Artist Pro, Fender 212R, Ernie Ball Volume Pedal, Takamine EF349, Epiphone Les Paul Standard, Fender Hotrod Deluxe.
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Mike Moffitt

 

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South Carolina
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2011 4:11 pm     LKL Bending
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Doug,I had the same problem with mine also,,that's why I am in the process of replacing it,along with the RKL with stronger material,as well as making real pedal stops.I will be using a 1/2 square of 1/16 aluminum,,cut about 1 1/2 inches longer than what is on there now.
I have some drawings of them if they might be of any help.
I am completely rebuilding my Starter with more quality parts.Not a machinist,nor a woodworker,but have a basic understanding of what works and doesn't,,and believe me,the 2 knee lever that move left,,well they suck,,Take a chance,try fixing them up,,.
Please feel free to ask for any help,from myself,or the more experience builders,,even tho a lot of them will tell you not to waste your time,,I like a challenge.
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Gary Richardi

 

From:
SoCal, USA
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2011 5:25 pm    
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You can mitigate the problem fairly quickly and easily (though Mike's solution is probably best long-term).

First, adjust the plastic collars on either end of the "axle" (sorry for the less-then-standard terms) so it has no side-to-side play (which puts it out of line with the "stop"). You need a small allen wrench and it may be difficult to reach the hex set screws in the collars but it's worth the effort. I did them all and took as much play out as I could.

Second, straighten out the crank as best as possible. They bend easily.

Third, remove the outer nut holding the lever on, tighten the remaining one (again, to remove play), then replace the outer, locking nut.

This should return it to working "as designed" so it stops correctly when it hits the screw head (yeah, it's a very poor design).

Finally, a long wood screw works as a back up stop.... Winking
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Clete Ritta


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San Antonio, Texas
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2011 8:38 pm    
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Vice grips. Smile
Check out this thread as well.

Clete
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Jerry Roller


From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 2 Mar 2011 10:17 pm    
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Doug, the best fix I think is to add a pull rod in the top hole of one of the bellcranks that the lever activates and run the other end of that pull rod to the changer and thru a hole in a finger that is locked stationary. Put a nylon tuning nut on the pullrod at the changer and you have an adjustable solid stop. Sorry, I forgot that I had posted this on the other thread. However, it does work quite well.
Jerry
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