1st String Raise,2nd String Lower

Mike Moffitt · From: South Carolina

I will only have 3 knee levers on my Carter Starter when it is finished,I don't want to lose the 1st string raise,or the 2nd string lower,,so am wondering if I would run into any kind of problems if I were to place them both on the same knee lever.

Olie Eshleman · From: Seattle, WA

not unless you want to play them together....I had them together on a pedal for a minute, but that flat 5th (d+g#) is uuugly unless you are playing an E7 chord and even then.

I spose you can't get extra levers for those carter starters?

Mike Moffitt · From: South Carolina

WELL I HAVE THE 3RD LEVER,BUT IT NEEDS SOME MAJOR REPAIR,,WILL EVENTUALLY USE IT,,BUT FOR NOW I JUST WANT TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF WHAT I DO HAVE HOOKED UP

Harry Dove · From: Michigan, USA

How much are you raising string 1? If I only had 3 levers my first two would lower and raise strings 4 and 8 a half step. If I could get a half stop on my third it would lower string 2 D/C# and lower string 9 a half step. If I was going to raise the F# I would probably choose string 7 and raise it a whole step. That way I could raise it half way by feel or by ear. That would still let you get a nice 7th with the pedals down. I use that 7th string raise a lot and not just for chords. I'm not sure what your options are on the Carter Starter, I never played one.

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

What happened to the fourth lever?

I, like Harry said, would have the E raises and lowers and the second string D/C# half stop setup if possible. There are times when I play from the , I'll call it B chord position - strings 1,2 5, and use that lever that lowers string 2, and any movement on string 1 would ruin that. You could lower 9 to C#, lower 6 to F#, or raise 7 to G or G#. I wouldn't change string 1.

Although, I don't know what limitations are built into a Carter Starter.

As an aside, if I only had 3 levers, they would be the E string changes and the 6th lower to F#. I use the G# to F# lower a lot more than any other lever other than the E changes.
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Dickie Whitley · Posted 17 Feb 2011 4:14 pm

My CS doesn't have a first string raise. Three pedals Emmons setup,a raise and lower for the E's, a lower for the 2nd string and a lower for the 5th. Somebody must have modified this one, certainly not "stock".

Harry Dove · From: Michigan, USA

Richard, good to hear your thoughts on lowering string 6 from G# to F#. I have been thinking of adding that change for awhile. That is certainly a good alternative to raising the F#. I do raise both strings 1 & 7 a whole tone with a lever, but I'm not sure having that on string 1 is worth all the hype it gets. Too bad we are not able to instantly change our setup from one song to the next as needed. I have often wondered why no one has tried to modernize the steel guitar by taking it beyond just a mechanical devise. Everything else seems to have merged mechanical and electronic. I'm not sure if there is a solenoid that has varible response that would translate pedal and lever movements, but it would be great to be able to change your copedent to raise or lower any string(s) with just a few keystrokes!

Richard Sinkler · From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana

We have had the discussion many times over the years about electro-mechanical means of actuating the string changes. I would hate to lose the control over the pedals. We can actuate a change fast or slow depending on the feel we are trying to project at the time. Then there is half-pedaling, etc. I do admit that it would be nice to be able to change the functions of pedals/levers on the fly, but I think if that was possible (and keep the cost of a guitar within reason), it would probably have been done by now (not counting the crossover models that Sho~Bud and Williams made).
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Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 55 years and still counting.

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