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Chris Lucker
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Posted 15 Dec 2010 5:41 pm |
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Every couple of years I offer for sale some of the pedal steels from my collection. I do not have any specific guitars in mind, but I would be interested in considering selling quite a few of them if interest in expressed. The collection includes Bigsbys, AUTHENTIC Emmons wraparounds, some JCHs, Sho-Bud cabinet end Permanents and some very interesting projects as well. The amps include a 1950 V-Front Super a Standel 25L15, a red Webb maybe others.
This is vague, but if you are looking for something special, collectors grade and rare, send me an email.
Please do not contact me simply for photos.
I do not want to appear to be rude, but I am not a resource library. Many of these items are rare and some of their value comes from the rare features they possess. I would rather leave it up to the next owner if he wished these features to be shared in public. I turned down requests to photograph some of these guitars for a recent coffee table book, however, they are likely to appear in another book in the near future. I may place images of some guitars on the Stringlounge website. But essentially, descriptions are easy. if you are interested in an Emmons Wraparound, you just need to know that the guitars are in perfect condition, the parts are correct, there are no silly voodoo "improvements" by shadetree mechanics, the mica looks wet and Mike Cass did the setup.
There are new tax laws regarding PayPal on the horizon, so I am motivated to complete such sales in the next couple of weeks. The new laws will require you to be ever more vigilant-- even when you take a loss on a sale -- to prove you have not made a profit.
Let me know what you are interested in. Los Angeles Area buyers are preferred and will be offered cocktails. I am always open to trades for more Bigsbys and 1964 and 1965 Emmons guitars.
Thank you.
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Mike Neer
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Posted 15 Dec 2010 6:47 pm
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Chris, I am not in position to buy one of your gems, but if I was I wouldn't hesitate for a minute. You are one of the most knowledgeable people around and I always appreciate your words.
Mike
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Roger Guyett
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Posted 16 Dec 2010 9:27 am
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Chris, I am not in position to buy one of your gems, but if I was I wouldn't hesitate for a minute. You are one of the most knowledgeable people around and I always appreciate your words.
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....and a very fair and great guy to do business with. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2010 11:01 am
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Thank you very much, gentlemen.
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Chris Lucker
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Marty Neer
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Kansas, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2010 3:28 pm Guitar info
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| Chris, PM sent. Thanks, Marty |
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Dave Manion
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Boise, Idaho, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2010 9:56 pm
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I'm not saying this in a sarcastic way, but just feel I'm missing something. First of all, I totally understand you not wanting to waste your time posting pictures for people just to see in a SALE forum such as this, and I can understand not wanting to let people know exactly what you own for security reasons,....but, my question is this;
Would the public knowing about the rare features of these items make them less valuable on the market? I don't see why us getting to admire them (and I realize this isn't the place to do it, nor is it your "duty" to share, by any means) will hurt there desirablity. I just don't understand what features would be bad for Joe Schmo to be aware of. This is a serious question, I'm not trying to be argumentative, and I think there are probably reasons, but I can't seem to think of what they may be. I guess the sentence " I would rather leave it up to the next owner if he wished these features to be shared in public." just got my wondering.......I will keep my eye out for the book, and hope to have some steel guitar eye candy to look at then!
I hope I didn't cause any offense, I wish you luck in your sales.
Dave
Thanks,
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2010 10:54 pm
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| Dave Manion wrote: |
my question is this;
Would the public knowing about the rare features of these items make them less valuable on the market?
Dave
Thanks,
Dave |
Yes.
There is value in the new owner making the decision what gets shown an what does not. Some Bigsbys have unique features. For example, the first six Emmons Wraparounds had many features that made them different from each other. If you do not think these features are intriguing enough to own the guitars, than the guitars are not for you. You can be just as happy with a newer guitar like a 1966 or 1976.
I think my reputation for having an awful lot of collectible, high quality pedal steels -- especially 1964-1965 Emmons Wraparounds and Bigsbys -- stands for itself.
To help answer your questions, yesterday I had 32 pedal steels for sale to those who may inquire. I don't really want to describe in detail 32 pedal steels. I will leave that kind of sale up to the stores. I have many pedal steels in storage, some out on loan; some loans are very long term. I forget where they are so that tells me I do not need them.
Finally, my posting this way actually leads to offers sell me quality pedal steels, and that is good.
It is pretty simple, Dave. I have high end guitars, especially Bigsbys and Wraparounds. If someone seriously wants one of those, they already know generally what they cost, and the likely know that I have the best examples.
I should add that the market in authentic Emmons Wraparounds and Bigsbys is very healthy and active -- even during these past two years prices continue to climb. The market place for these guitars is not eBay, it is not the Forum. These pedal steels usually sell through personal inquiries and offers to buy. My listing presents an opportunity for those personal inquiries.
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Dave Manion
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Boise, Idaho, USA
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Posted 16 Dec 2010 11:16 pm
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Thanks for the explanation. Makes total sense. Pretty simple really. I hope you know I wasn't asking you to describe them etc....or questioning your reputation, just an honest question.
Thanks for your time, and again, good luck
Dave |
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James Nottage
From:
Indiana, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 5:50 am High End Pedal Steels and Amps
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Neil Lang
From:
Albert Lea, Minnesota, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 7:22 am
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Chris Lucker in one word: "Integrity"!!
If you need another word, I might also add....Generosity!
Neil Lang
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Dave Manion
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Boise, Idaho, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 11:17 am
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Just need to reiterate, my question was not about this sale, or how Chris goes about it, or how great of a guy he is. I apologize for any confusion. I was confused about his tentativeness to share details through the medium of a "coffee table" book. Just got me thinking about how much of a market there would be for a large, full color book of photos of wonderful old (and new) pedal steels, with plenty of closeups of undersides, changer ends, etc. Stories, descriptions of construction, evolution etc could be included too. It might even interest the engineering or mechanical type who has never played steel before, given the right presentation. Just strikes me as a cool way to try to present the PSG to the public, instead of "guard" it.
Chris, you spent most of your post defending your selling practices, please know I wasn't calling them into question at all, or asking you to describe anything. Just like the idea of the book, if there is a market for it. I know on the forum there would be alot of interest, but that might not be enough to get something like that published.
I realize this is off topic, please carry on. And bump to the top for this great group of people. I promise not to interrupt again.
Dave |
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 2:03 pm
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Chris Lucker in one word: "Integrity"!!
If you need another word, I might also add....Generosity!
Neil Lang |
I will second that. The item I bought from Chris was small, no bigsby, but his price was more than fair, his communication excellent...and the item was as described, maybe even better than described.
edit:Dave, dont worry, I think everyone understands it was just a question. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 2:07 pm
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Thank you, guys.
Reading your nice remarks makes you wonder why the Vatican ever decanonized St Christopher?
Chris
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Chris Lucker
Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars. |
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Peter Freiberger
From:
California, USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 2:50 pm
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| I thought I'd just add my endorsement. I also have only had some small parts dealings with Chris, as well as acquiring a wonderful EMCI he used to own from a mutual friend, but I'd say you can absolutely rely on his integrity. |
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Cliff Kane
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the late great golden state
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 4:13 pm
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| Yes, this is all true. Anyone who knows him will tell you what a good guy Chris is, and what a deep fount of knowledge he is on these guitars. I think Chris has probably forgotten more about these things than most of us will ever know. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 5:13 pm
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I really need to meet this guy.
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Chris Lucker
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Lonnie Wells
From:
The Buckeye State
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Posted 17 Dec 2010 7:32 pm
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| Chris is a wealth of knowledge on vintage Emmons pp's and willing to share his expertise and comments when questions come up about these old instruments. I've learned a lot from communications I've had with him. We are fortunate to have folks like him on the forum! |
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Richard Sinkler
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aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 18 Dec 2010 11:50 pm
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Dang Chris... Where do you and the family sleep? The back yard?
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Bob Carlucci
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Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2010 9:32 am
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I don't know Chris well, but can say this about him... He bought some Bud pedals and pull parts from me as well as a few small MSA parts I had leftover.. I priced the stuff below market as I just had no use for it. When I got the check it was for more than what I had asked for. Not something you commonly see from a buyer.
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 19 Dec 2010 10:25 am
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Thank you all for the wonderful comments and the email inquiries.
You must remember that any any positive reputation mayI have, and the positive experiences some of you have had with me, are because of the trendous opportunity this forum presents and interaction with damn good people such as yourselves. So thank you.
I also need to say that although I have certainly taught myself a great deal about the very early Emmons guitars and Bigsbys by being fortunate enough to sit and stare at these instruments, the real credit should go to Mr Herb Steiner, Mike Cass, Paul Warnik, Chance Roulette, Whit Wilson, PeeWee Whitewing, and so many others that have generously shared their experiences.
Those guys can really play them too.
Thank you all.
Chris Lucker
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 20 Dec 2010 11:45 pm
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I have been traveling so if I seemed to ignore your emails for a couple of days, I will catch up now.
Thank you.
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Chris Lucker
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Keith Ballmer
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Traverse City, Michigan, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2011 7:44 pm
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wow...weird!
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Jerome Hawkes
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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 1:03 pm
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never met Chris either, but know he is at the top of a short list of serious collectors - i once was seriously looking at an early emmons and when i found out Chris had already inquired and decided not to buy it (as the price was reasonable) - i knew he knew something i didnt and passed on it - found out later he was right about said steel. thats the kind of stuff i think he is referring to in his original post about the little details.
unfortunately, my new years resolution is to "love the one your with/already have"
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Larry Behm
From:
Mt Angel, Or 97362
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 1:19 pm
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I too had a positive experience with Chis, I sold him an old red Emmons case, he paid me more than I was asking and would not take back the overage.
A local steeler here in Portland (Russ Blake) had the #8 Emmons for quite some time on loan from Chris. Gee what a deal.
Thanks Chris for being one of the good guys.
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 12 Jan 2011 5:57 pm
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Thank you very much, gentlemen. I appreciate it.
Chris
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