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Topic: Bob you can close this /thanks everyone Mike |
Mike Archer
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Posted 9 Jan 2011 7:57 pm |
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im asking this because of replacement
knees....
how many lower Es on the right side on there
push pull emmons?
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Tom Keller
From:
Greeneville, TN, USA
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Posted 9 Jan 2011 8:34 pm
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Right Knee, I started on a Sho Bud.
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Paul Sutherland
From:
Placerville, California
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Posted 9 Jan 2011 11:59 pm
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| I lower my Es on the right knee (RKR), but it has nothing to do with knee problems. |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Roual Ranes
From:
Atlanta, Texas, USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 3:43 am
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| Right for me. |
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Ben Lawson
From:
Brooksville Florida
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 4:13 am
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Dick Sexton
From:
Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 5:23 am Poll Confusion>>>>
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Always been RKL... Never touched a Sho-Bud. Don't have a Knee problem. Does mental count, married three times, "I've earned crazy".
Your poll...  |
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Larry Bell
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Englewood, Florida
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 5:50 am
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RKL on all my guitars -- push pull and all pull
Most of us who started out on Sho-Bud or MSA guitars (and, as Dick mentions, others as well) had E to D# on the right knee. Buddy Emmons started the trend with that change on LKR and E to F on LKL but not all major players (e.g., Paul Franklin, Lloyd Green and others) followed suit.
Never any knee problems here either.
There have been many discussions of this topic. Do a search.
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Mike Archer
From:
church hill tn
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 6:21 am thanks for the posts
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thanks for the imput guys
I tried several times to do a search
but could not get what I wanted
ive always lowered es on the left but in recent years after having both kness replaced
I get a lot of pain after a time in the left knee
and leg right leg seems fine and I was thinking about changing the knees around.. on a pp this can be
costly so I wanted to get some views on the subject
so I may change my all pull and give that a try
thanks Mike  |
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Rick Schmidt
From:
Prescott AZ, USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 7:03 am
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RKL for me(old Sho-Bud guy). If I ever join the U12 club, I think I'll be glad that's where it is. I'd hate to have to hold in the E lever with the left knee in 6th mode.
I do have a "tricky" knee from an old surfing injury, but it only gives me trouble when carrying my boat anchor of a D-12 Dekley sometimes. |
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Michael Robertson
From:
Ventura, California. USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 7:59 am Re: Poll Confusion>>>>
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Does mental count,
Your poll... |
Oh I hope so.
LKR
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Hook Moore
From:
South Charleston,West Virginia
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Bob Mueller
From:
Mexican Hat, Utah, USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 8:51 am
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RKR Just always did it that way, I'm not sure why but never had chance to play a real Steel till finaly got a Pedal Master. Now I'm stuck with old habits.
Bobby
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Dave Mudgett
From:
Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 10:13 am
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I think the confusion lies in the fact that the poll asks, "how many lower there Es on the right side", and then the poll gives options
- "how many lower on the left side"
- "how many have knee problems"
RKL here. Knees are a bit weak from a youth spent as a baseball catcher, but not insurmountable. I also think E lowers can be made workable on either knee. If you don't like putting E=>Eb and E=>F on separate knees, you could put E=>F on the right knee also. Personally, I prefer them on separate knees. |
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Stu Schulman
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 11:21 am
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RKL Ancient Sho-Bud guy  My friend tells me that nobody uses my set up anymore,I see others still use it.
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 11:23 am
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| RKL - i too started on a Bud & a prayer |
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Pete Burak
From:
Portland, OR USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 11:39 am
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I lower E's on RKR on my Emmons PP S12U.
This is how Jeff Newman was teaching it at the time I started playing an S12U. |
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Mike Archer
From:
church hill tn
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 1:07 pm sorry about the pole question
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sorry about the pole question
I goofed on the posting and I got it backwards
anyway I think yall get my point
my excuse is ive been sick for 2 weeks with the crud.....
thanks for the posts
Mike |
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Benton Allen
From:
Muscle Shoals, Alabama, USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 4:37 pm
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Hi Mike!
I switched from the left knee to the right knee many years ago. I've not had any knee trouble, but I just like it better this way. It only took a few hours to get used to. I lower my "E" RKR and raise my "E" RKL. I setup all my guitars this way. Both Push/Pull and All Pull. |
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Mike Archer
From:
church hill tn
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 5:10 pm hey Benton
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hey benton thats cool!!
I cant keep my left leg straight as I should
my weight is another problem too
my right leg is ok and im playing fine its just at the end of the night my left leg is hurting a lot
not from pedal action but lowering LKR
thanks for the post my friend
Mike |
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Dan Galysh
From:
Hendersonville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 5:32 pm
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| Tried it on LKR...went back to my roots on RKL (first guitar was a Sho Bud). |
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Randy Wade
From:
Batesville, Arkansas, USA
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 5:54 pm
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| I wouldn't hesitate to relocate the E lower lever to the right side if it would free you up to play easier without fatigue. My first steel was a sho-bud crossover and it had that change on the right knee. It only had that knee lever and one other that lowered the second string. When I got my next steel it had both the E raise and E lower on the left knee and it felt good there so thats the way I have had it ever since. I could get used to it again on the right leg pretty easily if necessary. |
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Peter den Hartogh
From:
Cape Town, South Africa
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Posted 10 Jan 2011 11:57 pm
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| RKL. |
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John Bresler R.I.P.
From:
Thornton, Colorado
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Posted 11 Jan 2011 6:10 am
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RKL on my Emmons PP.
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George Kimery
From:
Limestone, TN, USA
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Posted 11 Jan 2011 6:41 am Lowering E;s on the right side poll
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| I have had 4 guitars in my life. The first two lowered the E's RKL. The last two LKR. I liked the RKL a lot better. It just allowed me to get from lowering the E's to raising the E's so much quicker and smoother. I never had any problem switching from one to the other so I don't think you will have any problem adjusting and I think you will like it better. |
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