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Topic: Glen Ross Campbell of The Misunderstood |
Ben Jones
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Posted 22 Dec 2010 5:22 pm |
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Their hit was Children of the Sun, you can hear it on youtube.
Is that really pedal steel?
They were from Riverside CA in the late 60's , anyone see em play live?
Any infoof other than this wiki?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glenn_Ross_Campbell |
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2010 5:33 pm
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| The guy is still out there playing last I heard. Seems few in our community care about Glenn's contributions and place in history. |
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Chris Bauer
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Nashville, TN USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2010 5:37 pm
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| He comes up now and then on here. Search for past threads. He's a player who was WAY before his time and, as mentioned by Ron, is apparently still out there playing somewhere. |
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2010 5:46 pm
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Search only yeilded a couple mentions in the past 5 years. The existence of several other notable Campbells and one other notable Glenn Campbell make it a tough search. 
Its strange he is so rarely mentioned and there seems to be no footage of the Misunderstood that i can find. |
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 22 Dec 2010 6:26 pm
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By the time I saw him, the band name was Juicy Lucy - early 70s. He was playing a Fender nonpedal steel at the time - this Stringmaster or one like the one in these clips, I'm pretty sure -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piy5ckyO_Ks
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXkmuUoUyT0
I don't know about the earlier period, but most of what I've heard from the Misunderstood sounds more like nonpedal to me - lots of sweeping glisses, a lot of single-note playing, slide-guitar-on-steroids.
Here's a clip out there of (I think) Glenn playing with Buddy Miles and Buddy Guy in England - also looks like a nonpedal console steel - it says this is from '69. |
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Dave Zirbel
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Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 22 Dec 2010 10:43 pm
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I had some email correspondence with him earlier this year. There's another clip on youtube of him playing with Juicy Lucy on TV but no footage of the Misunderstood has surfaced yet. He lives and plays in New Zealand. I'll search the archives with the video links.
I think Glenn must have been the first rock psycedelic steel player predating David Lindley and Sneaky Pete.
A fellow forumite that passed away last year said he saw him hanging out at the local music store in Riverside Ca in the early to mid '60s but never heard the band. His comment was "that's the first time I'd seen a guy with long hair!"
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Dave Zirbel
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Sebastopol, CA USA
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Ian Miller
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2010 2:41 am
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| Hey Dave (and Ben), look for a dvd called SUPERSHOW (the film with Buddys Guy and Miles, though I'm pretty sure that Campbell only appears with The Misunderstood), it has the one bit of Misunderstood footage I've seen. Wild stuff! |
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Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Posted 23 Dec 2010 6:13 am
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| In contrast to what was written in Wikipedia about him, I read that he declined the offer to play with Joe Cocker. There was a lengthy article about him and The Misunderstood in an american magazine, which name I don't recall. |
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2010 6:51 am
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very cool, thanks! |
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Dave Zirbel
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Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2010 7:28 am
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I heard he played a little with Sammy Hagar before Sammy was a superstar.
Ian, I think Glenn appears on the Supershow with Buddy Miles on the song is Texas. The Misunderstood already disbanded by that time (1969)I think. Glenn himself said there is no known footage of the Misunderstood. He would love to find some though!
Here's the link for the Supershow video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdSGFQ-VRm0&feature=related
Glenn remembers that and is a little embarrassed because he said they stuck him with a 100 watt solid state amp and "they didn't have effects back in those days."  He also said he used real heavy strings because they would distort better.
I think Glenn was a non pedal player for the most part but does play some pedal steel. Last email with him he said he was looking for a Stringmaster. He favored D tunings.
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Ron Whitfield
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Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2010 9:08 am New Zealand, eh?
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| Joachim Kettner wrote: |
| There was a lengthy article about him and The Misunderstood in an American magazine, which name I don't recall. |
It's called Shapes Of Things, a great mag for all things 60s rock that were missed at the time, like The Misunderstood. It was a lengthy article that spanned two editions, which I have, and covered tons of ground.
Here's their web page http://www.myspace.com/everything/movies
The guy was a pioneer, and probably still is. |
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Paddy Long
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Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 23 Dec 2010 12:04 pm
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Dave is correct, Glen lives in Auckland, New Zealand and as far as I know is still playing a bit !
I might email this thread to him when I get home!
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Ian Miller
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 23 Dec 2010 11:48 pm
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| Dave Zirbel wrote: |
I heard he played a little with Sammy Hagar before Sammy was a superstar.
Ian, I think Glenn appears on the Supershow with Buddy Miles on the song is Texas. The Misunderstood already disbanded by that time (1969)I think. Glenn himself said there is no known footage of the Misunderstood. He would love to find some though!
Here's the link for the Supershow video;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdSGFQ-VRm0&feature=related
Glenn remembers that and is a little embarrassed because he said they stuck him with a 100 watt solid state amp and "they didn't have effects back in those days." He also said he used real heavy strings because they would distort better.
I think Glenn was a non pedal player for the most part but does play some pedal steel. Last email with him he said he was looking for a Stringmaster. He favored D tunings. |
Sorry, I forgot all about that song! 
He's in there elsewhere with a band doing some song with a KILLING FLOOR groove, I thought that was The Misunderstood. I have the clip but it's in unwatchable shape, and I can't seem to find it on YouTube either.
That DAZED AND CONFUSED Zep performance is still boss, though! |
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 27 Dec 2010 9:06 am
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Over the years I've read a few different takes on how the Missunderstood wound down, the original group, ie: The Riverside outfit which relocated to England in '66, folded in 1967. Glenn Ross Campbell (full name makes searches much easier I find) went back to the US and worked with the Dirty Blues Band, appearing on their debut LP. Honestly I find that group a serious step backward, but most white blues bands in the US sound kind of pale after the second Butterfield Blues Band LP 'East West' from '66. At least for me.
The Dirty Blues Band were okay, I prefer the Chicago crowd though. From the same period, Charlie Musselwhite's outfit had a steel player and a couple of future Commander Cody regulars.
Anyway, the Dirty Blues Band set is okay, but Glenn is seriously subdued compared to the Misunderstood material, which simply wails!
By 1969 he was back in the UK, some version of the story is that he's leading a new version of the Misunderstood and he bails on them for Juicy Luicy, or the group evolves into Juicy Luicy.
Either way, JL is a far moore jam-boogie type band, but they also have a funk-country groove kind of like Little Feet.
The first JL album is more jam-blues with a kinda boogie thing going on. It's okay, but the second JL set from 1970 is pretty much Lynyrd Skynyrd meets Little Feet, but before those bands got their debut LPs out. It's a total ripper!
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Ron Whitfield
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 28 Dec 2010 9:09 pm
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The Wickipedia page has some good info and some mistakes, in part due to the fact they mix up the timeline.
Campbell toured with Cocker in '72, no sweat, as simple as that. It was a smaller soul revue than say the Mad Dogs tour, but still a large band with horns, etc.
They went to the USA, etc.. and Campbell returned to the States at some point.
More info anyone, well have a look at these:
Misunderstood: www.themisunderstood.com/band.html
Juicy Lucy: www.alexgitlin.com/juicy.htm
Juicy Lucy now: www.juicylucyinfo.co.uk/index2.html
The Joe Cocker '72 tour downunder, infamous..yep, big drama, Glenn was there too.
http://www.milesago.com/tours/cocker.htm
There was a live LP taken from the '72 tour, which came out in 1976 as "Live In L.A."
A decent review can be found here: www.warr.org/cocker.html
Or, you can just read it here:
"A delayed cash-in release that documents Cocker's 1972 tour. Oddly, it's a bit more focused and accessible than the vastly more famous Mad Dogs, helped by the respectable backing band that Stainton and Price threw together: the horn section is filled out by both Jim Horn and Bobby Keys, Stainton's boogie-woogie work is entertaining ("Dear Landlord"), and on two tracks they get surprisingly loose and loud electrified steel guitar solos out of guest Glen Campbell (the rollicking New Orleans march "Early In The Mornin'," and a sprawling version of "Love The One You're With"). Cocker's own songwriting is so weak that "High Time We Went" is the only original, but his super-bluesy vocals are strong ("St. James Infirmary"), the band seems sharp and well-practiced on his concert staples ("High Time"; "Midnight Rider"; "Hitchcock Railway," a key track from joe cocker! that recalls Eric Clapton's early solo records), and fans will feel gratified that four of the eight tunes are new covers - the best is Ashford and Simpson's stately, bittersweet "Didn't You Know You Have To Cry Sometime." And the only real bummer is an endless, repetitive take of Ray Charles' gratingly earnest gospel tune "What Kind Of Man Are You." Not a gem and not the easiest record to find, but if you can get a cheap copy, you won't really regret it. Produced by Nigel Thomas; the band is Neil Hubbard (guitar), Alan Spenner (bass), Felix Falcon (conga), a loud and insistent backing vocal trio of Viola Wills, Virginia Ayers, and Beverly Gardner, and Jimmy Karstein, Conrad Isidore, and Jim Keltner all alternating on drums."
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Olli Haavisto
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Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 29 Dec 2010 5:14 am
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I have an obscure LP from 1973 called "In memory of Robert Johnson" by Paul Williams and Friends.( Williams was the lead singer of Juicy Lucy.)
Glenn Ross Campbell is featured prominently on the lap steel along with Bob Hall, Pat Donaldson and Spencer Davies, among others.
Recorded at Trident Studios for Sonet Records.
Anybody familiar with this album ?
Maybe not that obscure after all: it has been re-released on CD in 1993
http://tinyurl.com/34r7z3h
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Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Posted 29 Dec 2010 7:50 am
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Thanks for the info, Jason.
I have the "Live in L.A." record. I can hear him clearly on "Early In The Morning", but I doubt it's steel, playing the solo on "Love The One You're With", it sounds more like a six string. |
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 29 Dec 2010 9:58 am
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| wow, you guys ..thanks for all this info. Glen certainly had a cool and unique style that was definetly ahead of its time. I'm gonna be looking for those albums. |
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Jason Odd
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Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 4 Jan 2011 7:39 am
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Glenn is the man! .. sure Jeff Beck and Jimmy Page used some steel guitar, but just to add a little something to the tracks they did use them on.
I really enjoy the whole Juicy Lucy thing, but
Glenn's playing on the Missunderstood material, notably 'Children Of The Sun,' just wails!
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Glenn Suchan
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Austin, Texas
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Posted 4 Jan 2011 11:18 am
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The Dirty Blues Band were okay, I prefer the Chicago crowd though. From the same period, Charlie Musselwhite's outfit had a steel player and a couple of future Commander Cody regulars.
Anyway, the Dirty Blues Band set is okay, but Glenn is seriously subdued compared to the Misunderstood material, which simply wails! |
Jason, the steel player whom frequently played with Charlie Musselwhite was the amazing Fred Roulette:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX06XkUhkbs
Keep on pickin'!
Glenn
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Michael Lee Allen
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Michael Lee Allen
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Michael Lee Allen
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