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Wayne Cox

 

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Post  Posted 29 Dec 2010 8:00 pm    
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What did Bill Leavitt call his tuning??? Maybe a C#Dim11th? I am content calling it the " Leavitt tuning ", but I would like to know more about his perspective.

~~W.C.~~
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2010 11:49 am    
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mike ihde will answer this for you.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2010 12:15 pm    
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I asked Mike about this several years ago and as I remember... I think he said it could be called C7 add D, add C#, although he preferred to call it the Leavitt tuning. There is no easy way to label the tuning, based on a chord, or as a diatonic.

I think C9 add C# would also be correct..? The middle 4 strings = C7. Strings 1 through 5 = C9.
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William Lake

 

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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2010 12:24 pm    
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I seem to recall it being referred to as C#dim7
Not sure, just a little memory twitch.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2010 4:17 pm    
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I seem to recall it being referred to as C#dim7


That accounts for strings 3, 4, 5, 6. But then there's the C on string 2 and the D on string 1. There's just no easy way to label the tuning. Maybe it could be considered a combination tuning, like C6/A7. Maybe C9/C#dim would work?
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Mike Ihde


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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2010 7:06 pm    
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When Bill invented the tuning he had no name for it. He didn't care about names, he was happy just having something he could play his favorite standard tunes with.

I told him when he was in the hospital that I would try to tell the Steel world about his wonderful creation and after his passing I tried to come up with a name for it.

It could be C sharp diminished 7 add C and D, or A7 flat 9/sharp 9 add 11, or C9 over b9 but anyway you look at it, it isn't as easy as good old C6, E7 etc. So to avoid weird names, I decided to call it The Leavitt Tuning.

If you know the tuning, you know it by his name and I think that's the way it should stay. We often times say Jerry Byrd's C6 tuning so why not The Leavitt Tuning knowing it's C sharp, E, G, Bb, C and D.

And thanks to Bill Hatcher and Roy Thomson for expanding the tuning and making beautiful music with it.

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William Lake

 

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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2010 7:12 pm    
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"If you know the tuning, you know it by his name and I think that's the way it should stay"

I could not agree more. Honour the man who created it.
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 30 Dec 2010 11:09 pm    
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I agree. "Leavitt tuning" works fine. I also like C9 over b9.
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Fred


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Post  Posted 31 Dec 2010 3:34 am    
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I always tell those who ask it's the Leavitt tuning, then spell it out. Then the person asking gets a kind of scared look and no one ever wants to try my guitar.
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Matt Berg


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Post  Posted 31 Dec 2010 7:27 am    
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I have a Tele I play in Em11 tuning with a Em13 bender.
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Wayne Cox

 

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Post  Posted 31 Dec 2010 2:57 pm    
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Mike,Doug,& everyone else, thank you for your input. I have been playing it as an 8-string tuning with a "Eb" on top and an "A" added on the bottom end. Most of the time I use it like that with Bill's original configuration on the middle six strings. Sometimes for a slightly different tone quality I tune the whole thing down one semitone (one frett).
I have to admit that the Leavitt Tuning has been a challenge to learn but I find that it is only limited by my own ability. I really believe that this tuning will one day take its place at the top of the heap.

~~W.C.~~
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Josh Cho


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Post  Posted 1 Jan 2011 5:23 am    
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Doug Beaumier wrote:
I agree. "Leavitt tuning" works fine. I also like C9 over b9.



C9/Db

Wow, that's not one you see everyday Exclamation

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Edward Meisse

 

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Post  Posted 1 Jan 2011 12:55 pm    
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Wayne Cox wrote:
Mike,Doug,& everyone else, thank you for your input. I have been playing it as an 8-string tuning with a "Eb" on top and an "A" added on the bottom end. Most of the time I use it like that with Bill's original configuration on the middle six strings. Sometimes for a slightly different tone quality I tune the whole thing down one semitone (one frett).
I have to admit that the Leavitt Tuning has been a challenge to learn but I find that it is only limited by my own ability. I really believe that this tuning will one day take its place at the top of the heap.

~~W.C.~~


I agree with this as far as chordal playing goes. For single string work though, I think the 6th tunings will stay around. I think the D8 with the Emmons C6 (D-E-C-A-G-E-C-A) and a form of the 8 string Leavitt is going to be the lap steel standard in years to come.
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