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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 14 Dec 2010 8:41 pm    
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I understand Elvis Presley recorded "Beyond the Reef"
on August 9th, 1965.

By chance, do any of YOU have this record?

I'd appreciate hearing from you.......

THANKS.
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Ricky Hagan


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Post  Posted 16 Dec 2010 9:02 am    
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I probaly have it.I'm out of town this week.Email me the weekend and I'll check.I have most anything he ever did.
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Larry Miller

 

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Post  Posted 16 Dec 2010 9:41 am    
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here it is on you tube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWA9YdUfl_s
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 16 Dec 2010 10:26 am    
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Marty Robbins is singing with Elvis on that recording, and Marty's voice is mixed quite a bit hotter than Elvis. hmmm... I wonder why they did that? Winking

Sounds like Jerry Byrd on steel. There are a lot of signature Byrd riffs on the record, especially the ending. Jerry also played on Marty Robbins' Hawaiian album.
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Mitch Drumm

 

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Post  Posted 16 Dec 2010 11:53 am    
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It sounds like the standard released version to me, overdubbed steel by JB, 2 years after Elvis did the vocal track:

Guitar: Ray Edenton

Bass: Norbert Putnam

Drums: Buddy Harman

Steel Guitar: Jerry Byrd

Background Vocals: Priscilla Hubbard, Dorothy Dillard, William Wright and Lois Nunley
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 16 Dec 2010 6:23 pm    
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Thanks for posting that, Larry. I'm a great Elvis fan and I'd never heard that recording. It makes an interesting comparison with the Marty Robbins version.
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Ray Montee


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Post  Posted 25 Dec 2010 4:09 pm     Those with good playing ears.......................
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Listening to this olde Elvis tune several times has pretty much made up my mind that the intro to this record was done by a pedal steel player and NOT, JERRY BYRD, who played out the remainder of the record.

One can hear definite tell-tale sounds of pedal steel string changes during that intro' that do not ring true of JERRY BYRD nor did they appear anywhere else in the recording.

WHAT do YOU think?
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Steve Hinson

 

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Hendersonville Tn USA
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2010 4:58 pm    
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...it's Pete Drake...
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Ray Montee


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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2010 5:01 pm     Got a question for YOU............
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Steve: How do YOU know that? I'm NOT questioning
your knowledge but rather, how did you manage to secure that inside info'?

Extremely curious..............
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Steve Hinson

 

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Hendersonville Tn USA
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2010 6:18 pm    
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Ray,I have a book listing every Elvis session...including location,time of day,personnel...actually this book lists this track as being recorded May 26,1966...

The title of this book is"Elvis Presley:A Life in Music"...fairly detailed...hope this helps.
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Mitch Drumm

 

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Post  Posted 25 Dec 2010 6:54 pm    
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It apparently was both Drake and Byrd.

I'm not sure if this recording was released in Elvis' lifetime?

It may be that there are 2 versions in the real world:

The Drake 1966 version and the Byrd overdub 1968 version.

Or it may be that only 1 version has ever been released--the overdub version, on which you can hear both PD and JB?

Jerry Byrd did the overdub session on August 9, 1968:

Guitar : Ray Edenton
Bass : Norbert Putnam
Drums : Buddy Harman
Steel Guitar : Jerry Byrd
Background Vocals : Priscilla Hubbard, Dorothy Dillard, William Wright and Lois Nunley


Steve is referring to the session info on the date of the original recording on May 27, 1966, as follows:


Guitar : Scotty Moore
Guitar : Chip Young
Guitar : Harold Bradley?
Bass : Bob Moore (May 25-27)
Bass : Henry Strzelecki (May 28)
Bass/Harmonica/Guitar : Charlie McCoy (May 25-27)
Drums/Tympani : "Buddy" Harman
Drums : D.J. Fontana
Piano : Floyd Cramer
Piano/Organ :Henry Slaughter (of The Imperials, May 25-27)
Piano/Organ :David Briggs (May 26)
Steel Guitar : Peter Drake
Saxophone : Homer "Boots" Randolph
Saxophone : Rufus Long
Trumpet: Ray Stevens
Backup Vocals : The Jordanaires: Gordon Stoker, Hoyt Hawkins, Neal Matthews and Ray Walker
Backup Vocals : The Imperials: Armond Morales, Jake Hess, Gary McSpadden, Sherrill Nielsen (May 25-27)
Backup Vocals : Millie Kirkham, June Page and Dolores Edgin
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b0b


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Cloverdale, CA, USA
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2010 7:28 pm    
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Here's an earlier take with Pete but no Jerry.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An7H0sgNo1Q

Definite pedal lick at 1:58.
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Steve Hinson

 

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Hendersonville Tn USA
Post  Posted 25 Dec 2010 8:17 pm    
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When I posted I had listened to the intro and the first verse and had decided it was Pete before I consulted the book...the intro is obviously Pete on C6...at that time I had not seen the overdub info in the book...it sounds to me like Byrd could be on there too...
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Billy Tonnesen

 

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Post  Posted 25 Dec 2010 10:00 pm    
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Bob: IMHO, there does not seem to be much thought put into the orchestration behind the singing on the version you posted. Were they just experimenting in what they ultimately wanted to record ?
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b0b


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Post  Posted 26 Dec 2010 9:06 am    
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To be honest, I don't think there's much thought in the orchestration of the finished record either. This is one of the worst recordings of the song I've ever heard. The band is going through the motions.

Just my opinion.
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Alan Brookes


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Post  Posted 26 Dec 2010 11:14 am    
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I agree with b0b. I'm a lifelong Elvis fan, but the backing on this needs attention. At times the piano and steel are playing over each other. It is, of course, a rejected track.
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