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Topic: SCHILD Pedal Steel Guitars |
Patrick Laffrat
From: Gemenos, France
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Tony Glassman
From: The Great Northwest
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 7:25 am
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impressive guitar. great pickup choices. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From: Louisville Ky
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 7:29 am
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Interesting design with innovative features. Looks great. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 9:11 am
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having known the Wiesner psgs, i can only confirm that Schild is a quality builder
the downside are :
imo pins but no slots at end of changer
& the prices :
5720 Swiss francs = 5860 $ for an S10
6590 Swiss francs = 6780 $ for an S12
9130 Swiss francs = 9400 $ for a D10
to which you'll have to add transport & import tax
there's a used S10 4 sale at 1500 $ which imo is a bargain :
Schild's half stop is quite innovative & reliable
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 10:02 am
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WOW!!! ![Whoa!](images/smiles/icon_omg.gif) _________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Ken Byng
From: Southampton, England
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 1:47 pm
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I saw one of Peter Schild's first pedal steel guitars, courtesy of an introduction to him by Hans Holtzherr.
Peter is a first class engineer and a lateral thinker. He doesn't follow the herd when it comes to designing his instruments. _________________ Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E, |
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Patrick Laffrat
From: Gemenos, France
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 3:28 pm
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S12 / 1993 (Hans Holzherr)
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 5:57 pm
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That 2 way half stop is a wonderful innovation. Maybe the most significant development since the invention of tunable splits. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Rex Thomas
From: Thompson's Station, TN
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 6:48 pm Now be gentle....
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I checked out the website, I'm just curious:
Is this gtr sorta Sierra-ish? Aluminum body/wood necks? Am I close? No?
Looks great, muy expensive. ![Confused](images/smiles/icon_confused.gif) |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 4 Dec 2010 2:10 am
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no wooden necks Rex - all aluminum
i'd say this is the same horn than the one shown above
it's just got a different name sticker & some cleanin' up ?
who bist du Hanz H ?
![](http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y24/Froglegs/schild1.jpg) |
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Norbert Dengler
From: germany
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Posted 4 Dec 2010 4:11 am
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a bandmate of mine got two of them as prototypes to check them out.
they`re unbelievable well made, never saw something even close! |
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Michael Robertson
From: Ventura, California. USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2010 6:58 am Your's?
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CrowBear Schmitt wrote: |
no wooden necks Rex - all aluminum
i'd say this is the same horn than the one shown above
it's just got a different name sticker & some cleanin' up ?
who bist du Hanz H ?
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Is this one yours Crowbear?
Very nice! _________________ No Avatar only a picture of my Mentor. |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 4 Dec 2010 7:19 am
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No Michael it is'nt
it's the one Hanz H put up here years ago |
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Mac Knowles
From: Almonte,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 5 Dec 2010 7:30 pm
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Beautiful craftsmanship but the prices are scary |
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Paul E. Brennan
From: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 7:31 am
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Is there any connection between Schild and the Swiss made steel Lionel Wendling plays? (Wiesner I think). |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 7:40 am
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Has any other builder looked at that 2 way half stop? It seems that they would all want to incorporate this feature into their guitars. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Georg Sørtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 8:14 am
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The WBS DouBle Stop works that way.
Looks like it's a European "thingy". |
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 9:21 am
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Georg,Do you know if WBS sells their 1/2 stop kit separately? ![Winking](images/smiles/icon_winking.gif) _________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 10:27 am
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Stu Schulman wrote: |
Georg,Do you know if WBS sells their 1/2 stop kit separately? ![Winking](images/smiles/icon_winking.gif) |
Even if they do, wouldn't they be metric, and not fit on an American made steel? _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Georg Sørtun
From: Mandal, Agder, Norway
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 3:26 pm
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Stu, Wolfgang said he sold them for use in any PSG, so, yes. Just contact him...
http://www.wbssteelguitars.com/contact.html
Mike, it will of course make all US made steels go out of tune, but don't they already? ![Laughing](images/smiles/icon_lol.gif) |
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Patrick Laffrat
From: Gemenos, France
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 3:36 pm
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Paul E. Brennan wrote: |
Is there any connection between Schild and the Swiss made steel Lionel Wendling plays? (Wiesner I think). |
Yes Paul, read the Schild history at:
http://www.schildsteel.com/cms/index.php?page=L010011
see you a day in Ardèche Paul? ![Smile](images/smiles/icon_smile.gif) |
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Patrick Laffrat
From: Gemenos, France
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 3:43 pm
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Mike Perlowin wrote: |
Even if they do, wouldn't they be metric, and not fit on an American made steel? |
Wolfgang can probably make it in american measure system if you want Mike. |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 6 Dec 2010 3:52 pm
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Not for me personally, Patrick, (I don't have any half stops,) but for all the manufacturers and builders who want to make their guitars better. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 7 Dec 2010 8:15 am
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Quote: |
Looks like it's a European "thingy" |
it is indeed
from Schild's history page :
Paul Wiesner's (or his mechanic's) legacy to the steel guitar world was not his copied guitar but the two-way halfstop
here's the original model from JY Lozach's Wiesner
sorry for the out of focus pic
you can see it on lower left bottom hand on 2nd pic
it's a piston w: a ball bearing in the middle (which can be adjusted) that makes the half stop
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Dick Sexton
From: Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 7 Dec 2010 9:47 am Hey CrowBear...
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I wish I'd thought of that, it's so simple its scary. Assuming there is a tension spring on the side away from the plunger and one over the ball bearing that falls into a 360 degree "V" grove around the plunger. Looks like he'd be selling a lot of those. Would make any half stop positive with little drag or added pressure. Me thinks! |
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