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Steve Cunningham


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Post  Posted 21 Nov 2010 10:14 pm    
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I just started messing around with combining slants & string pulls simultaneously. Unforgiving, but satisfying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtsJ773XpAo
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 21 Nov 2010 10:22 pm    
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Cool, Steve. I think you'll agree with me when I say, "our wives will never understand." I'm referring to the countless hours spent on the smallest of achievements. Laughing But they are so satisfying....
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Guy Cundell


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 1:54 am    
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Excellent! Bravo! TF Much.
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Andy Sandoval


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 7:42 am    
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Steve, you make it look so easy...I hate you Razz BTW, what tuning are you usin?
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Josh Cho


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 8:02 am     Re: Faux Country Pedal Steel - 6 string, open E
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Steve Cunningham wrote:
I just started messing around with combining slants & string pulls simultaneously. Unforgiving, but satisfying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtsJ773XpAo


I never would have believed you, Steve, if this video didn't document how you achieved that sound...


....but then again, your feet were hidden.. Winking
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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 8:02 am    
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Wow, that's some real nice country pickin' Steve!
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Steve Cunningham


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 11:10 am    
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Thanks guys. To paraphrase Mike, "the things we spend time on!" It sure is fun though.


Andy Sandoval wrote:
Steve, you make it look so easy...I hate you Razz BTW, what tuning are you usin?


Open E...EBEG#BE
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Bob Blair


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 12:13 pm    
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Really something else Steve! Nothing "faux" about it! Great playing.
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Patti Maxine

 

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Felton, CA, USA
Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 1:30 pm    
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Sounds great Steve!
Did you use lighter gauge strings on the "pulls"-
or just sheer digit muscle?
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Steve Cunningham


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 2:15 pm    
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Thanks. Patti, the gauges run from a .14 high E to a .68 low E ( a custom set I got from bOb )on a 25" scale...after a couple of whole-step pulls on the 2nd string there's a big, dark-red line on the flesh of my pinky, and plenty of tears in my beer. Crying or Very sad Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Chuck S. Lettes


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 2:53 pm    
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Well done, Steve. "We don't need no stinkin' pedals!"
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Gary Stevenson


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 7:08 pm     Open E tuning
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I also hate you Laughing Laughing I have been using Open E for 4 years and played country for most of those 4 yrs and damn it, I have yet to get a sound like that.Much less the string pulls.U da man!!!!I NEEEED A TEACHER ****
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Kelvin Monaghan

 

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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 9:17 pm    
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I thought I was doing OK with my string pulls after the hints you gave on my last post.
Then I hear this Dam that's good.
We need more information on those combination slants and pulls,also sounds like you add a volume pedal as well,great great stuff.

That's a very heavy bottom E ,what is your complete set gagues,and I realize it's a 25 in scale.

Cheers Kelvin
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Steve Cunningham


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 9:50 pm    
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Here's a very crude diagram of the opening lick, reflecting the V7-I(G7-C)chord change.This lick is repeated up one octave at the 30 second mark of the video...

G Am G7 C
------3-------5------------------6 1/2 step pull---8
------3------4.5 1/4 step pull---6-----------------8
------3-------4------------------6-----------------8

It's a harmonization of the standard bar slant inverted 3rd(or 6th) lick(the outer strings in the diagram), using a slight pull on the 2nd string of the 2nd chord to correct the flatness of the bar slant, creating the Am triad( a passing chord, connecting the G & G7 chords). The 1/2 step pull on the 1st string of the G7 chord creates the M3rd, which, along with the 5th and b7 on the 2nd and 3rd strings, produces the G7 chord. Whew!

Upon previewing this post, I noticed the chords above the tab won't line up with the tab. Obviously(?) the G, Am, G7 and C reflect the harmony of each tab shape.
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Peter den Hartogh


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 10:48 pm    
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Tab:

      G      Am                 G7                 C
------3-------5------------------6 1/2 step pull---8
------3------4.5 1/4 step pull---6-----------------8
------3-------4------------------6-----------------8


To line up the Tab, just add the (TAB) code in front and (/TAB) code at the end
and put them between [square] brackets, not (round) brackets.

To see what I did, just click on my QUOTE button.
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Steve Cunningham


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Post  Posted 22 Nov 2010 11:34 pm    
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Thanks Peter.
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Atlanta Ga. USA
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2010 7:25 am    
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steve. sorry i missed your tune the other day. hope all went well.

the faux steel things sound nice! you could easily act like most tele players do when they play with a pedal steel player...play all those obnoxious faux pedal licks that the "real" pedal player hate!!!! lol!!!
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Steve Cunningham


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Post  Posted 24 Nov 2010 8:33 am    
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Yeah Bill, my ulterior motive for all this is to get on a gig with Tommy Dodd, and play all of his licks...off by a 1/7th step of course! Mr. Green Mr. Green Mr. Green

Just kiddin' Tommy - it'd probably be more like a 1/4 step. Muttering
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Tom Pettingill


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Post  Posted 24 Nov 2010 9:05 am    
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Nice job Steve!
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chris ivey


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Post  Posted 24 Nov 2010 5:24 pm    
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cool licks...now the real test will be doing it without the 'unforgiving' truthfulness of the pitchiness. cool licks, though.
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Kelvin Monaghan

 

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Post  Posted 24 Nov 2010 10:10 pm    
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Hi Steve,is that really a 68 on the bottom E or a typo.
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Steve Cunningham


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Post  Posted 25 Nov 2010 11:42 am    
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Kelvin, it was either a .68 or .64., I've used both depending on availability.
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