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Topic: Steel V Steel |
Rusty Rhoads
From:
The Motor City
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Posted 12 Nov 2010 5:29 pm |
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Here is what i am going to do if anyone is INTERESTED I will make a video and feature every steel guitar that anyone wants to bring to this video shoot and i will play any guitar you bring with 2 cords one volume pedal and one amp same song and we can compile all these on video for anyone one to view what guitar's they like in tone quality and tone peformance old verse's new / new verse's new formica verse's wood ect any combination is welcome you can even bring and old bigsby if you have one .
Anyone who like to participate with a steel weather and individual or any other steel guitar maker's i welcome everyone who like to participate in this .
this could be an exciting way to display ever aspect of STEEL GUITAR TONE for everyone no matter if your a pro or just play a steel guitar at home for your own enjoyment ..................
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2010 6:06 pm
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Well Reece, it looks like you've got a taker.
(No disrespect Rusty, it's a private whateveryoucallit from a way back.)
Good luck. It's a bit far to hitch with my PSG.
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 12 Nov 2010 7:42 pm
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Excellent idea Rusty,Just too far away from me. 
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 12 Nov 2010 8:41 pm
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| i'm pretty excited about this development! |
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Mike Perlowin
From:
Los Angeles CA
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Rusty Rhoads
From:
The Motor City
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 1:52 am
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I did mention 1 volume pedal 2 cords n same amp same gear for every guitar tested no changes of volume pedals cords or amps period through the whole ordeal it is going to be a fair comparison ....  |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 6:41 am
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| Rusty, I'm concerned that no steel will sound it's best through my puny little laptop speakers …... |
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Gary Cosden
From:
Florida, USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 7:15 am
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I think this is the best idea I have heard yet for a comparison. I really hope you get to pull this one off.
Even with the video I would still like to read about your impressions of playing action and feel, etc., for each individual guitar. If I wasn't in southern Florida I would probably take part! |
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Frank Estes
From:
Huntsville, AL
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 7:49 am
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Cool idea. I like the way this guy did a video comparison, in the case a Les Paul vs. a Strat in the same video. Obviously, we will not need distortion for the steel compare!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibonH3lA66U |
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Ricky Hagan
From:
Elm City N.C. U.S.A.
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 8:04 am
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| I would like to see this done. I stated on a thread awhie back that all steels don't sound the same.I was shot down by other steel players that it's all in the hands.I said then and I say now that don't don't make any sense to me.Like I said before why not just get any steel if it's all in the hands.I'm not saying one sounds better than the other just different.I would sure take you up on this if I lived closer. Good luck Rusty I hope you can pull this off. |
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Doug Earnest
From:
Branson, MO USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 8:08 am
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Good idea Rusty, hope you can pull it off.
Barry Blackwood - get a set of those little earbud headphones and plug them into your computer. You will be pleasantly surprised at the sound.
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Manufacturer of Stage One & Encore pedal steel guitars
http://www.stageonesteelguitars.com
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Richard Damron
From:
Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 8:17 am
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| Good idea Rusty, except that there's too many variables beyond your control to afford it a reasonable chance of succeeding. |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 8:23 am
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| I like the idea Rusty. I might have a guitar to add to the mix depending on the time and location of the event. |
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Rusty Rhoads
From:
The Motor City
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 8:31 am
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| well there are no variables going to happen with the same amp same 2 cords and a volume pedal and my right hand picking the strings i am aggressive player i will pull it off and make it all happen trust me |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 8:58 am
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| and why wouldn't we trust you rusty you're my new role model and the best player i've ever heard go for it man make us proud |
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Shorty Rogers
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 9:38 am
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Rusty, When you're ready to shoot, call me.
Shorty |
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Rusty Rhoads
From:
The Motor City
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 10:08 am
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| yes yes shorty great idea my friend forgot you have the equipment great idea thanks |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 11:13 am
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Unless all the guitars have the same pickups too, it seems kind of pointless to do this. Rusty has already made the case elsewhere of how important the pickups are to the sound, right?
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Rusty Rhoads
From:
The Motor City
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 11:50 am
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jim i am just going to show the difference in sound and tone it don't matter what you bring its a simple test period if u think your pickup sounds great well we will put the guitar through the test !
let everyone else decide what they like or don't like |
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Paul Sutherland
From:
Placerville, California
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 2:25 pm
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It seems to me that to really compare the steels you need to record each steel twice.
First with what I would call the default amp, with the default setting (same amp and setting for every steel). That way we can hear the raw difference between the steels. Use your favorite amp and settings and don't touch the knobs!!
Then record each steel using whatever amp and amp setting you feel gives the best overall tone for that particular steel. The second recording should show the steel at its best. But no special effects, other than reverb (set as close to the default level as you can get). Also, volume needs to be as close as possible to the default setting.
Might be a bit more work for you, but it would help reduce arguments that brand __ steel didn't get a fair chance due to the test method. |
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Richard Damron
From:
Gallatin, Tennessee, USA (deceased)
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 3:27 pm
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Rusty -
The variables are there - just think and ponder things for a few minutes.
Other folks have already added a couple. |
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Joe Casey
From:
Weeki Wachee .Springs FL (population.9)
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 3:51 pm
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 Might make all those pickers working realize they are working with inferior equipment..  |
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Jamie Stoner
From:
Bowling Green, Kentucky
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Posted 13 Nov 2010 4:10 pm
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I'll let you try my sho bud d12 fingertip and my franklin
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