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Topic: What to do with the C6 neck |
Glen Derksen
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Alberta, Canada
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 12:58 am |
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What does the average player do with the C6 neck if he removes it? Sell it? Save it for building another steel and turning it into an E9 neck? I want to remove mine, but I don't want it to sit somewhere and take up space. There must be some use for it. Does removing it reduce the value of a steel?
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 1:19 am
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Wouldn't it be easier to just sell your current steel then replace it with a SD-10?
When Lloyd Green had Shot Jackson convert his Sho-Bud D-10 to the original LDG SD-10 back in the 1970's, he ended up with 18 lb. of stuff in a bag that didn't have any future use.
When he had Shot do that, there was no such thing as an SD-10 but now of course you have many choices.
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Jack Stoner
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Kansas City, MO
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 3:10 am
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Why not keep it and learn to use it?
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baxter vaughan
From:
Lubbock, Texas 79424
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 3:45 am
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| ditto to what jack said. it will open up a whole new world! |
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 7:05 am
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What to do with the C6 neck?
Play C6.
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Dave O'Brien
From:
Florida and New Jersey
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 8:41 am C6th
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| play it - it's fun! Especially try the BooWah pedal (normally the 8th)and then the 5th as I & IV chords 3 frets up from your open positions. |
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 10:28 am
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If you decide to remove it, yes, it will reduce the value of your steel. A D-10 is worth more than an SD-10. And there's always people interested in buying those parts. It wouldn't be too difficult a project to turn the parts into another S-10.
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Zachary Walters
From:
Maryland
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 10:28 am
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It would be a cryin shame if you removed the C6 neck.
Get Bobbe Seymour's Instant C6 Series vid as I recently did and at least try the first lesson for "Night Life" (except watch out for his "7 and 8 pedal" blooper, it is supposed to be "6 and 7"). This song is the pedal steel adaptation of a decades-old jazz standard riff that, once learned, will add another whole dimension to your playing.
You will give thanks.
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CrowBear Schmitt
From:
Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 10:45 am
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i would'nt remove the C6 neck Glen,but rather sell the D10 as a whole & then buy a S or SD10
remove the C6 & you've got a bunch of parts that aren't always easy to move
when you look at the prices, one gets a C6 neck cheap on a D10 considering the price of an S or Sd10
i tend to agree w: those that state that C6 is lot of fun & deserves to be investigated  |
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Glen Derksen
From:
Alberta, Canada
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 1:34 pm
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| I just don't like the weight of the dang thing. I figure I could keep this one in tact and use it for the home or band practice room and eventually get a SD10 for gigging, if and when I ever get there. |
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Stan Schober
From:
Cahokia, Illinois, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 1:49 pm
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Learn it.
Live it.
Be it.
Make your mantra:"I am one with the C6."
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Norman Boling
From:
Paragould Arkansas, Philadelphia TN USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 3:05 pm The weight....
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I pick up my 40 lb GFI ultra Single 10 keyless with one hand, my 40 lb Nashville 112 with the other, walk in and start pickin in no time at all.
Back to get the seat...everything in 2 trips in and out..
No fork lift, no roadies, no back pain, Unless you play a lot of C6, resting on an arm pad beats reaching over strings to play.
Doubles do have their place though if you play all the strings... |
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Ron Randall
From:
Dallas, Texas, USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 3:37 pm
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Learn to play it!  |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 4:37 pm
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What Jack Stoner and other similar post have said.
There is a goldmine on that neck. Really! Get a course on it. Jeff Newman and others have great ones.
You might just take an Axe to E9th, who knows. Well not really!
c.
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Dave O'Brien
From:
Florida and New Jersey
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 6:06 pm C6
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Glen - If WEIGHT is the issue have you tried transporting it without the case? I put my steel in the back of a station wagon face down for "local" gigs. Or maybe a set of split cases would work for you if you don't have a vehicle that would work. I hear that Pete Drake carried his in the back of a pickup truck year round -no case. 
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Wayne Franco
From:
silverdale, WA. USA
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 7:56 pm Its pretty simple really
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You need a lot of enthusiasm to play either neck. If you want to play the C-6 neck I would say generally the tunes are more complicated chord wise but blues works great on C-6. After playing E-9 for a long time. I decided to work at the back neck. I didn't have another 20 years to spare so I started learning it from a much more academic
approach learning exactly WHAT I am playing. Its a great way to bend you brain in a different way. Best thing that musically ever happened to me. I think in half the time I am much better now on the back neck than the E-9 although much of it translates to the E-9. If you don't want to put the time into it whats the use of carrying it around?. Just sell it and get yourself a single 10. |
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Dave Grafe
From:
Hudson River Valley NY
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Posted 9 Nov 2010 8:31 pm
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| Consider it your masters degree, already paid for and there for you whenever you are want to show up for class.... |
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Rick Winfield
From:
Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 10 Nov 2010 9:25 am C6
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C6 can be worth its weight in fun !
Start out slowly, without using the pedals, and then add them to stop your slanting.
Soon, you'll be using more complicated chords, and loving it.
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Keith Murrow
From:
Wichita, KS
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Posted 10 Nov 2010 9:44 am
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| Glen, I took the C6 neck off of my guitar 10 years ago and never looked back. Since my guitar isn't in production anymore, I kept everything just in case I ever need a replacement part or spare. |
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 10 Nov 2010 12:15 pm
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Don't ever take the back neck off a guitar - sacrilege ! ... buy another SD10 if that's what you want, but my advise would be to actually learn the C6th tuning - it's more fun than a ferret down your trousers !! 
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Jim Cohen
From:
Philadelphia, PA
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 10 Nov 2010 1:06 pm
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Well I didn't remove it , but I made a change...at least for the short term...
I removed 4 strings, two above and two below and I placed a Dobro G tuning on the other 6 strings ! Now I don't know how long I will keep it on there but for now it's a kool treat to move down and play a bit of Electric Dobro !
Plus the weight savings of removing 4 strings is dramatic.
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Paul Sutherland
From:
Placerville, California
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Posted 10 Nov 2010 1:27 pm
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A little C6th goes a long ways, kind-of like curry or garlic. Even when I only play it on two or three songs per night, the difference between E9 and C6 is very obvious to me, the whole band, and the audience. People seem to think you're really doing something special when you start hitting those big chords. Just don't over do it. You don't want to give away the fact that your knowledge of the neck is limited. Better to leave them wanting to hear more.
The basics of the C6th neck are not difficult to get a handle on. Virtually nobody will know that what you're doing is fairly simple.
So my advice is give it another chance. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 10 Nov 2010 1:59 pm
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| don't over do it. You don't want to give away the fact that your knowledge of the neck is limited. Better to leave them wanting to hear more. |
Amen, dear brother.
Also, If you can not pick fast cleanly, OR you do not know how to play "jazz", DON'T do it! until you can do it right.
The audience, as well as the players, can spot it, if you were playing in the next universe.
Ex: Bruce Zumsteg (ZumSteel) will tell you, "I can't play fast"
I will add to that, "I caint either!, but I LOVE to hear Bruce play that slow stuff. It is incredibly awesome AND beautiful!
Finally, fast notes (regardless of how they dazzle), may be music and they may NOT be music! Big chords may be music and they may NOT be music.
In the hands of Buddy Emmons or Curley Chalker, it IS music. EVERY nuance of it. But in ALL too many cases, fast notes are tantamount to a little boy out in the back yard shootin a 22 rifle up in the air, in rapid fire sequence.
"He AINT hittin nuthin, he's jes' shootin!"
c.
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Mike Archer
From:
church hill tn
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Posted 14 Nov 2010 10:21 am c6
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I would just get a single neck and keep my d-10
intact and learn it
man a lot a music can be played on c6
I would never cut a d-10 down to a sd-10
c6 offers great cord choices and all kinds of single note snake runs and they dont have to be played at the speed of light to work great
speed licks are fine but you dont need um all the time....learn that c6 you will open a whole new
list off things to enjoy!!
Mike  if you would like one of my c6
dvds its yours just email me.. |
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