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Topic: Fender 1000 Tunings |
Cliff Kane
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Posted 30 Oct 2010 11:00 am |
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The guitar has 8 pedals with two pulls per pedal.
Does anyone use the E7 and A6 tuning setup that is in the Fender 1000 manual? What do you think about that way?
It would be cool to get a thread going to list people's different setups on these guitars. I know that some are posted already, but it would be nice to have some sort of compilation of tunings.
I am considering b0b's posted Fender 1000 setup, or just going with a standard E9 without the top two strings and a standard C6 without top and bottom strings, that would be easy and familiar territory.
Again, any thoughts on Fender's set-up?
Also: anyone know how Speedy West, Jimmy Day, and Curly Chalker had their 1000's setup?
Thank you,
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Ryan Barwin
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 30 Oct 2010 12:33 pm
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This is what I'd do:
Or you could raise the second string (on E9) to F# on P8 and use both feet to do Mooney stuff. The third pedal could lower the E's or something.
I wouldn't use Bob's setup because I think the high G# string and the C pedal are essential to the vintage country sound.
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Dave Zirbel
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Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2010 12:38 pm
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Curly Chalker:
Herb Steiner posted this awhile back and said the setup was typed on Fender letterhead.
I use the Sneaky Pete B6 at home on a 400 and it's real fun and versitle.
I may try D9 (E9 down a step) with a standeard 10 string tuning minus string 2 and 9.
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2010 1:59 pm
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E9th with bottom two (fatest)strings removed. I like the chromatics.
B6th on the other(havent had time to figure it out  ).
David Gilmour had open G and open Em on his 1000. 
I'm interested in Jimmy Day's 1000 tuning also. |
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b0b
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Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2010 2:02 pm
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I don't have the Fender 1000 anymore, but since it was mentioned here's my copedent chart:
My Fender wouldn't hold a high G# without breaking strings. I always like the idea of a low E as the bottom string anyway. The pedals are all standard changes. With exactly two pulls per string, no tricky modifications of the guitar were required.
Here's a demo that uses both necks:
http://soundhost.net/b0b/Fender1000Demo.mp3
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 30 Oct 2010 4:28 pm
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| Cool--thanks for your posts. What is the origin of the tuning that Fender used? Was this tuning from any particular player? |
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C Dixon
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Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 30 Oct 2010 4:57 pm
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Look at the photos. These were taken from the owner's manual that came with a Brand new Fender 1,000 in the '50's.
Al Petty told me that he was the one that wrote all the tunings and all the pedal changes. Whether he did or not, I do not know, but he also told this in one of his tuning seminars at the ISGC, about a dozen or so years ago.
Look at the photos:
The handwriting additions are what I added after I got my Fender. Sorry for the smudges and lack of good focus; but it is a half a century old, and I tried to make it as ledgable as possible.
Remember, when these came out, they were NOT designed NOR built to achieve what happened AFTER Bud Isaacs shook the world of steel guitar to its very foundation; and drove 30,000 steel players crazy.
And NO one had a sign of knee levers when these first surfaced. Keep this in mind when you peruse these tunings.
In a word, when Harlen Bros came out with their first commercially built "Multi Kords", (and Gibson right on their tails with their "electaharps") they and Fenders later were designed to play a steel guitar like Alvino Rey did.
IE; Emulate what a spanish guitarist did; to the letter. The "moving tone" type of playing using 2 or three strings while resolving melody notes and phrases was only beginning to rear its (what is now) miraculous head.
Because BI led to Sho-Bud, and Emmons type guitars that ultimately put Fender OUT of the PSG business. Sadly, many a company has fallen prey to this malady.
"Never take the "new" kid on the block for granted, cuz he might just eat YO lunch pahdnah!"
Any questions, please ask.
c.
Here is a fellow playing one of those "boat-anchor" Fenders. 
Who is that "non masked" man anyway?
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 31 Oct 2010 9:21 am
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| Thank you, C. Great info and pictures. |
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C Dixon
From:
Duluth, GA USA
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Posted 31 Oct 2010 9:36 am
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 Cliff
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Ben Jones
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Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 31 Oct 2010 10:35 am
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| Looks like Day had D9 and C6? |
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Billy Tonnesen
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R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 31 Oct 2010 12:54 pm
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| I could be mistaken, but I heard the Tuning Charts for the Fender 1000 were developed by the Steel Guitar genious, AL PETTY. Al worked for Leo Fender in the early years. |
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Cliff Kane
From:
the late great golden state
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Posted 31 Oct 2010 1:18 pm
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| Cool--what was Mooney, Hamlet, and the Bakersfield players doing with these guitars? |
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Dave Zirbel
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Sebastopol, CA USA
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Posted 31 Oct 2010 1:28 pm
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Mooney played E9, no chromatics and one pull per pedal. He lowered the high G# to get 7ths. He used both feet on the pedals.
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