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Topic: Sho-Bud LDG SP: SOLD!!! |
Tommy Gibbons
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Posted 22 Oct 2010 11:19 am
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I have for sale a 1981 Sho-Bud LDG-SP made in Conway, Arkansas. It was shipped 6/2/81 to Modern Music in Ft. Lauderdale Fla. It was checked by Yasu Kameya. The serial is # 16304 and was built 4/2/81.
It has the Emmons E-9 set-up with 3 pedals and 4 knee levers.
Last month Steel Guitar Nashville (Bobbe Seymour) removed, cleaned, and oiled the changer. And replaced with Premium Cobra Coil strings. Also a newly rewound pickup was installed earlier this year from James Morehead and it is the exact same as the original.
Included will be a new D2F cover and leg bag.
Of course it has a few minor dings between the pad and neck, but very small. And a little nick below the LDG-SP logo. I didn't notice it until about a month after I bought it. Light has to hit it just right to even see it. The case is in very good shape too.
I bought it last October, and I have been very satisfied with it.
The price is now $1850 shipped US only...sorry no trades.
Thanks for looking,
TommyG...
_________________ Mullen SD-10 RP, Evans SE-200, Line 6 POD XT, Peterson Flip Tuner, Geo. L Cable, Hilton Pedal, and D2F Covers for all.
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David Nugent
From: Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 24 Oct 2010 3:08 am
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Tommy....Please excuse this hijacking of your post but would like to ask; It was my understanding that the "SP" designation under the "LDG" was to identify models that were finished in colors other than green, obviously this is incorrect? |
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Ron Davis
From: Lake Arrowhead, California... We're a mile high. ;)
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Posted 24 Oct 2010 4:53 am
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My SP is also that color.
A bit of a different green than other LDG's...
Not as much of an emerald tone to it.
rd
ps - Tonemonster...! _________________ Emmons 12 p/p, Revelation, Black Widows, (& way too many assorted goodies...)
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Tommy Gibbons
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Posted 24 Oct 2010 5:24 am Reply to David
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David, I've wondered the same thing...but, I guess Ron D. must be correct.
Thanks for posting!!!
TommyG... _________________ Mullen SD-10 RP, Evans SE-200, Line 6 POD XT, Peterson Flip Tuner, Geo. L Cable, Hilton Pedal, and D2F Covers for all. |
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Dan Beller-McKenna
From: Durham, New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 24 Oct 2010 6:20 am
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I have no idea,
but when I saw the sp on this later model, I assumed it implied it uses a super-pro type undercarriage.
What do I know?
Dan |
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Marco Schouten
From: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Posted 24 Oct 2010 6:33 am
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Maybe because this one doesn't have the normal rope inlay??? _________________ ----------------------------------
JCH SD-10 with BL XR-16 pickup, Sho-Bud Volume Pedal, Evidence Audio Lyric HG cables, Quilter Steelaire combo |
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Ron Davis
From: Lake Arrowhead, California... We're a mile high. ;)
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Posted 24 Oct 2010 8:25 am
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From what I've read, "SP" means special paint...
Which in itself is a bit strange, because they use stain, not paint. lol. _________________ Emmons 12 p/p, Revelation, Black Widows, (& way too many assorted goodies...)
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Tommy Gibbons
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Posted 25 Oct 2010 7:28 pm $1900 for LDG SP
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bump up once at $1900!!!
TommyG... _________________ Mullen SD-10 RP, Evans SE-200, Line 6 POD XT, Peterson Flip Tuner, Geo. L Cable, Hilton Pedal, and D2F Covers for all.
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Ron Davis
From: Lake Arrowhead, California... We're a mile high. ;)
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Bob Bartoli
From: Pennsylvania, USA
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Posted 25 Oct 2010 8:28 pm Ldg
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I've heard that "SP" means Super Pro..designation /style that Sho Bud offered in the early 80's...???? |
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Ron Davis
From: Lake Arrowhead, California... We're a mile high. ;)
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Posted 25 Oct 2010 8:34 pm
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There's another thread here somewhere that has info about this...
The conclusion was that "SP" meant "Special Paint".
Seems like someone who used to work at Sho-Bud brought forth that bit of info.
Personally, I like the idea of it meaning "Super Pro". Sounds cooler.
At any rate, they are super cool guitars. I love mine.
rd _________________ Emmons 12 p/p, Revelation, Black Widows, (& way too many assorted goodies...)
Drummer with a pedal steel fantasy.
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www.Desperado1.com
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Tommy Gibbons
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Posted 25 Oct 2010 8:52 pm LDG by Lloyd Green 11/11/05
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Hope this clears up the LDG SP legend.
posted 11 November 2005 08:30 AM profile send email edit
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This just in from Lloyd Green; which will clarify what I spoke of> "The Real LDG".
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After I came up with the padded model Sho-Bud, which initially was to be only for my personal studio use, and requests started coming in to Sho-Bud for a guitar built like mine, the picture suddenly changed.
Early on I had suggested this might be a commercially viable instrument for Sho-Bud to fill the gap between a pure single neck and a double neck. Shot's and David's first response was that this was a looney idea, that is, until they started getting all those folks wanting one. Suddenly it was a brilliant idea! I was back in the fold.
In my contract signed with Sho-Bud in 1973 outlining royalty amount per guitar sold, design, color, etc. it is clearly stated that all LDGs (David Jackson's and my appellation) will (would) be of a dark green color. For those who wanted the LDG model, but in a different color, an additional two letters would be added under the "LDG"; SP. SP stands for special paint, nothing more. I would still receive royalties but the color could be any choice.
There were, indeed, 25 to 30 LDGs built at a time and there may have been a few mixed colors of special orders among them, but all LDGs not green would have been labeled SP.
Now, there are a number of counterfeit LDGs of various colors out there that were built after Fred Gretsch acquired Sho-Bud from the Baldwin corporation. Counterfeit being any that weren't built by the Gretsch Corp. And lawsuits were threatened by Fred although to my knowledge none were ever filed.
If an LDG is of a color other than dark green (not counting the ones which have grotesquely faded from repeated sunlight exposure or guitars that have been repainted a different color and had the LDG re-added) and doesn't have SP under the logo.....they are counterfeits. By the way, any LDG decal that can be flaked or peeled off is also a fake since all legitimate decals were under the finish.
Thanks for looking,
TommyG... _________________ Mullen SD-10 RP, Evans SE-200, Line 6 POD XT, Peterson Flip Tuner, Geo. L Cable, Hilton Pedal, and D2F Covers for all. |
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Ron Davis
From: Lake Arrowhead, California... We're a mile high. ;)
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Posted 25 Oct 2010 9:05 pm
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That's it, Tommy...
I remember reading that.
But, what still puzzles me a bit is that mine (& yours, Tommy) is pretty close to the regular LDG color.
But, I have noticed that other green LDG's I've seen seem to have more of an emerald green color, than the darker/browner green that mine is.
My "SP" logo is under the lacquer (as stated by Mr.Green), along with "LDG". _________________ Emmons 12 p/p, Revelation, Black Widows, (& way too many assorted goodies...)
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James Morehead
From: Prague, Oklahoma, USA - R.I.P.
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Posted 25 Oct 2010 9:18 pm
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A bumpske for my pal Tommy. Enjoy that new Mullen, they are a tremendous guitar!! To bad you can't keep 'em all, huh?? _________________ "Good judgement comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgement"~old cowboy proverb.
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Tommy Gibbons
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Posted 27 Oct 2010 5:58 am LDG SP last Bump!!!
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If this LDG SP doesn't sell at this price ($1850 shipping included US), it's going back to the closet.
Thanks for looking, TommyG... _________________ Mullen SD-10 RP, Evans SE-200, Line 6 POD XT, Peterson Flip Tuner, Geo. L Cable, Hilton Pedal, and D2F Covers for all. |
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Aaron Wayne
From: California, USA
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Posted 27 Oct 2010 6:16 am
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Hi there! I am interested in buying your guitar, but being a new Forum member, I have concerns.
There is no mention of a case. Got one?
Is there anything non-functional, or ANY reason this guitar is not 100%? please contact me, I am a serious buyer. Thank you |
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