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Owen Barnes
From: Utopia, Texas, USA
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Posted 11 Oct 2010 4:33 am
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I'm a musician first, guitar player second (long-time 6-string), just now delving into the steel world (buying a new D-10 from Gary Carpenter at Rains). I have the time and space to devote to practice. Looking for advice on setting up my practice room. What can you guys recommend as "musts" in setting up my practice space for the steel work. Also, what are some "really nice" things to take advantage of. $$ are not unlimited, but would like to keep it "real world". Thanks for any input. |
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John Swain
From: Winchester, Va
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Posted 11 Oct 2010 6:43 am
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I'd say one thing to consider is access! Having carried steels and amps upstairs to second floor music rooms, if you can get it on ground floor you'll save your back! Also keep it away from everyone else..JS |
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Johan Jansen
From: Europe
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Posted 11 Oct 2010 8:25 am
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computer with Band in a box, small soundsystem, small steelamp, understanding wife, music stand, closett to put CD's and tab in, tuner, grounded 110V, mirror to look at your own hands when practising, headphones, cables, light, heating.....etc, paper to write things down and something to record yourself (when/while you practise)
JJ |
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Ray Montee
From: Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 11 Oct 2010 9:08 am The perfect size.............music room
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Moved into a house with an extended, deep garage.
The room measured 16 x 16. I finished it all up, electrical outlets, etc.
Installed a WIDE wheelchair type door. No steps to and from the van (15 feet distance). Got rid of hi-top van and got a mini-van that can load/unload entirely within the garage.
All my records, tapes, equipment, guitars and amps, BIAB, etc. located there. I NO LONGER HAVEW ADEQUATE
FLOOR space. 16 x 16 is NOT all that BIG! |
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Paul Crawford
From: Orlando, Fl
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Posted 11 Oct 2010 7:33 pm
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If you have kids/pets a door is the first thing to look for. Agree with the ground floor idea but a door and unused space lets you get up without hiding everything.
I'd highly recommend a small mixing board so you can put your instrument, a CD player, your cell phone, a tape deck, or what ever else you'd like all into a headphone and control the mix. No need for a big board, anything over 4 channels is great. Look around and you may find an older Roland digital recorder which gives you the mixes plus lets you record your own. I've seen them on Craig's List for about $200 around here for a 880.
A well lighted music stand is obvious. Computer access lets you retrieve all of the tab out there, but you can just as easily print it out in another room and bring it in, (ink cartridge manufacturers will thank you.) Some sort of paper sorting and storage will be needed and you should probably print out some of the blank Tab sheets available in the tab section of the Forum. A storage space and sorting bins for the countless little bits and pieces that you tend to collect from spare picks to extra patch cables, (did I mention a door to keep the kids out of there?)
Another quick, handy thing to have around is a cheap keyboard. You can put most of them in a memory mode and whip up a quick backing track even with one finger. It will also let you practice in different keys and styles that you might be able to quickly whip up in BIAB. BTW, if you have an iphone there's a Band-in-a-Hand app that let's you make tracks on the phone then pump them out of the headphone jack into your mixing board. Jamie Ambersole's Jazz CDs, which can be found at most large chain music stores, are an easy way to get backing tracks with a good variety of styles to practice with.
And whether you get it from your keyboard, an app on your phone, or a mechanical unit, a metronome is a "must have."
If you don't have a pack a seat or other dedicated seat already, get one. You want a consistent height and a comfortable seat for your practice. Back Rests are highly recommended. And a volume pedal if you don't have one. If you don't start with one then you'll have to relearn the feel of your guitar when it's added. And you might as well start learning to control the volume along with all of the other mechanics.
One last "nice to have" you might be able to borrow from your kids, a portable DVD player. There are tons of great learning material available on DVD and a small portable player in the practice room lets you play along.
And a door to lock it all away. |
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Owen Barnes
From: Utopia, Texas, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 4:07 am
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Hey guys, many thanks! All your comments were exactly what I was looking for, and probably will incorporate most of them. If you have any "after thoughts", please send to me as well. Once again, very valuable to me. Thanks. |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 7:07 am
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Get it as far away as possible from your wife! |
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Robert Mayo
From: Georgia, USA
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Ray Minich
From: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 8:13 am
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Find a DJ program for the PC, extract the songs from the CD's that you want to practice to, and you can make your own program playlists. _________________ Lawyers are done: Emmons SD-10, 3 Dekleys including a D10, NV400, and lots of effects units to cover my clams... |
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Mark van Allen
From: Watkinsville, Ga. USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 10:23 am
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Some really great suggestions here. Everybody learns differently, some do well with band-in-a-box, others like tracks CDs, but some kind of tracks or a metronome are essential to help establish the feel for timing and groove that ensemble playing requires.
The main thing I'd suggest, make it a comfortable space, one where you love to be. |
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Gary Cosden
From: Florida, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 11:02 am
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A decent headphone set up is a great addition. I have one and I can practice any time I want without being distracted or bothering others.You probably know this being a 6 string guy. |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 12:39 pm
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Robert Mayo wrote: |
Nice rugs, different amps ,plenty of space and a soda machine full of cold beer always helps....
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Robert, is that a Buckingham or a Royal Guardsman hiding in the corner back there ?
Here's my Berkeley II
Practice room ? It should be a nice place to hang out and feel good ! _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Brian McGaughey
From: Orcas Island, WA USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 12:50 pm
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Erv Niehaus wrote: |
Get it as far away as possible from your wife! |
I love my wife but I gotta second that! |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 1:21 pm
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Brian,
I decided that I needed my own practice room when my wife would come in and turn down my amp while I was playing.
I put a loft over the garage and now I can crank up my amp to my heart's content. |
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Brian McGaughey
From: Orcas Island, WA USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2010 5:29 pm
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Erv,
My issue is the "other woman": my steel. I feel best about playing when she's not around unfortunately.
Owen,
I second those who mentioned Band-in-a-box. You can make quick chord progression tracks in more styles than you'd ever use. Include a good stereo playback system for BIAB that'll play loud enough to allow you to play your steel along with it at proper levels where the good tone lies. That's me advice. |
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 13 Oct 2010 10:00 am
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I have a small set up in my bedroom,I also have neighbors on each side of me so sometimes I practice thru the amp other times I will practice and record on the little Fostex MR-8,I have a small studio across town and usually record some tracks there and dump them to the Fostex.
_________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Steve English
From: Baja, Arizona
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Posted 13 Oct 2010 1:03 pm
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My practice room.....
Last edited by Steve English on 19 Oct 2010 6:26 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Willis Vanderberg
From: Petoskey Mi
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Posted 14 Oct 2010 6:11 am
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How about this ?
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Paul Crawford
From: Orlando, Fl
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Posted 14 Oct 2010 7:38 am
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Steel porn. |
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Darrell Owens
From: California, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2010 12:50 pm
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My wife suggested a good set of HEADPHONES are highly recommended _________________ Zum Steel, Little Walter Amp, Benado Steel Dream
Darrell Owens
www.darrellowens.com |
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Erv Niehaus
From: Litchfield, MN, USA
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Posted 14 Oct 2010 1:21 pm
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For you or her? |
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Alan Brookes
From: Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 14 Oct 2010 3:12 pm
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I play down in my sub-basement. The one thing I miss most is a flat floor. It used to be the crawlspace, so the floor is concrete but uneven. Every time I move a PSG I have to adjust the legs and even then wobbles come in very quickly.
By the way, when I was looking for a house 14 years ago, one of the houses that I made a bid on had a custom-built fully-soundproofed recording studio with separate control room at the back of the house, which the Grateful Dead used to practise in. It would have been perfect, but I was outbid. Ironically, while the house was on show most of the people looking round were mumbling, "It's okay but what would you do with the giant shed thing in the garden ?" The answer, of course, was obvious, to use it for what it was built; a recording studio.
I don't know who eventually bought the house, but he tore the studio down to enlarge the garden. What a waste. |
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Robert Mayo
From: Georgia, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2010 7:30 am
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Tony Prior wrote: |
Robert Mayo wrote: |
Nice rugs, different amps ,plenty of space and a soda machine full of cold beer always helps....
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Robert, is that a Buckingham or a Royal Guardsman hiding in the corner back there ?
Here's my Berkeley II
Practice room ? It should be a nice place to hang out and feel good ! |
That is a Buckingham , sharp eyes !!! _________________ Greg's Guitars at http://www.gregsguitars.net or
http://www.gbase.com/stores/gregs-guitars/inventory
greg@gregsguitars.net |
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 17 Oct 2010 9:16 am
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Robert Ok ! I mean come on, whats a practice room without a vintage Vox piggy back amp! How long have you had it, how did you acquire it ? I acquired mine about a month ago through a strange deal which , I believe the amp came from the original owner, 2nd owner at best...the Berkely II is basically a 10 on the scale, I couldn't let it go plus the price was just impossible to pass on.
And yeh..it really addds some vibe to the practice room , just like yours...
tony..with very sharp eyes ! _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
Pro Tools 12 on WIN 7 !
jobless- but not homeless- now retired 9 years
CURRENT MUSIC TRACKS AT > https://tprior2241.wixsite.com/website |
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Robert Mayo
From: Georgia, USA
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Posted 17 Oct 2010 9:48 am
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It is actually a consignment from one of my clients,non original speakers and no lower cab cover. I do know where another one is with both original covers and foot switch. They are really cool solid state amps for sure . This being an older picture I now actually have four Gibson Super Goldtone stacks as well as 2 Gibson Super Goldtone combo amps ( I love them ), the Guild amp is gone, the Fender Champs are long gone and the Hiwatt original cab is gone. I also now have several Fender Twin reverb silverface amps which can peel the paint off the walls,I will take an updated photo soon, Greg. _________________ Greg's Guitars at http://www.gregsguitars.net or
http://www.gbase.com/stores/gregs-guitars/inventory
greg@gregsguitars.net |
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