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c c johnson

 

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Post  Posted 12 Nov 2005 3:54 am    
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Please help this dummy. I can't locate the topic about baz inquiring about rollers at the nut on a superslide. CC
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 12 Nov 2005 6:09 am    
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I believe it was deleted as per Baz's request.
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Reece Anderson

 

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Post  Posted 12 Nov 2005 7:31 am    
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I never had the opportunity to see the thread, therefore I have no comment. However, in honoring the request of my friend C.C. Johnson, below is one of my responses to the original request for information.

The SuperSlide nut consists of grooved nut rod glued into a polished aluminum carrier bracket. We are using 6061 aluminum as our standard nut-rod material but it could be made from other materials (brass, stainless, wood, bone, etc.) as well, if requested. The carrier bracket is precisely positioned by bosses fitting into counterbored holes in the keyhead and is retained using two Phillips-head machine screws.

A special carrier bracket could easily be fabricated to include a roller bridge. We would, however, anticipate a slight sound degradation. Also, if requested, we set string-groove depths in the nut rod to accommodate customer requirements. The same could be done with a roller bridge. Note, there are many lap-steel tunings out there and trying to second guess which tuning (and associated string gauges) will ultimately be used is futile (IMO).

We use the "insert-in-bracket" design concept (for nut and bridge) to provide flexibility for the "Add-A-String" feature and to provide variations of the basic SuperSlide sound by using a variety of materials for either nut or bridge.
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Ricky Davis


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Post  Posted 12 Nov 2005 9:11 am    
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In my opinion; I would NEVER put rollers on a non-pedal steel; as Reece mentioned the sound degradation. If someone wants rollers on a non pedal steel; just buy a freakin pedal steel and play it as a non-pedal. To subject a steel and it's wonderful design like the SS; to something other than the way it was designed to play and SOUND; to me, is a form of Blasfamy....ha....
Reece and them boys have done it right and in a big way; I wouldn't compromise any of that at all> leave it just like it is boys> it's a PERFECT design and sounds wonderful.
Ricky

[This message was edited by Ricky Davis on 12 November 2005 at 09:12 AM.]

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c c johnson

 

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Post  Posted 12 Nov 2005 9:25 am    
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Thank you Reece and thank you others. I answered the topic and I was wondering if anyone tried what I had mentioned. My responce was almost the same as yours Rick. No need for rollers on a straight steel. CC
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Jon Zimmerman

 

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Post  Posted 13 Nov 2005 10:45 am    
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What about the use of a Palm-pedal device at the Bridge-end? Would that make sense--could be that Baz had that in mind; or some type of multi-tuning "trilogy" thingie...eh? Did that open a can of worms, or what? ~JZ~
--I'll defer to the moderator if this should be moved to another topic..like no-pedals, or even Humor? Seriously, I've thought about the addition of one of those type devices to an 8 string Georgeboard--if stability/hysterisis(sp?) issues could be overcome, just as an example. JZ

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basilh


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Post  Posted 13 Nov 2005 4:26 pm    
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Just to clarify about my query regarding a "Roller" nut..
Maurice was MOST helpful and in fact on a subsequent thread by Caspar Noetzli asking about recommendations for 8 string lap steels I posted this ....
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Based on recent discussions with Maurice, I unhesitatingly recommend the "Superslide"
We all know how good it sounds, but the rest of the story is the fact that there is an excellent rapour with the customer.




http://www.msapedalsteels.com/html/superslide_pics.html


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