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Topic: playing outside in the cold nite air |
Terry Kinnear
From: Erie ,Pennsylvania
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 7:13 pm
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played a gig at our local community county fair,from 7-10pm on thursday nite. and was just cool enough to wear a jacket . I figured ,i would be tuning all nite. but i work,in the food equipment industry.so i borrowed a heat bar ,that keeps the food hot,until the waitress,brings you the food. I placed it under the steel players seat, and it keep me warm and the steel from going in and out of tune. everybody else,was wearing jackets, it was nice and comfortable. not to hot,had to take my jacket off.most how do you guys fight off the cold nite air? just wondering. _________________ Terry Kinnear [ steel wondering] |
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Dan Galysh
From: Hendersonville, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 8:32 pm
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When it gets in the 50s and below, Hot Hands packs help keep my hands warm. I dislike playing in cold weather. |
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Billy Tonnesen
From: R.I.P., Buena Park, California
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 8:38 pm
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AVOID THESE GIGS IMHO they were never worth it. My fingers would stiffen up and I spent the end of the gig strumming across the strings Alvino Rey style with my thumbpick. The whole band would end up out of tune. The last one I played was in 2006 in the Santa Ana river bottom behind the Prado Dam in Corona, Ca.on a cold April night. It was me, Sammy Masters, Carl Walden, and Monte Paul. |
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Bobby D. Jones
From: West Virginia, USA
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Posted 10 Sep 2010 9:11 pm Playing outside in cold night air
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My steel goes high when it gets cold, have to lower it to tune. One evening in october about 2004 it was cold. There was 2 steels on stage we played a verse, put our hands in our pockets and the other would take a verse. We were talking about that day just a couple weeks ago. It is not a good gig to play. If you had to do it. A heated bar and set of heated picks would be nice. Good Luck & Good Steelin |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 11 Sep 2010 5:15 pm
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last night we played outside on the deck of a country club...golf course...in auburn, ca. it was really miserable. got down into the low 70's and i had to get more cold beer to wash down my garlic fries! |
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Curt Langston
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Posted 11 Sep 2010 6:54 pm
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Hey Chris! I lived up in Foresthill Ca. I used to do some mining on the north fork of the American river, down on Horseshoe Bend! Yeah, that was in 1980, when gold was 800.00 an ounce!
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Jack Francis
From: Queen Creek, Arizona, USA
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 2:39 am
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Cold nights??? What's that?? _________________ DESERT ROSE D-10 8/5...Joe Naylor "SteelSeat"...
Gallien-Krueger MB200 amplifier through an Alessis MicroVerb w/15'Peavey cab.
TELES & STRATS...
FENDER TWIN & SEYMOUR DUNCAN 50W tube amps...1-12" 2-12" & 4-12" cabs and a FENDER MUSTANG-3 |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 4:59 am
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You should live in Buffalo. Why the other night, it was so cold a dog got his tongue stuck on my steel guitar leg. |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 5:26 am
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"Sunny" Florida is no better. The heat and humidity can deaden a set of strings in a flash. I've got to the point I rarely do "outside" gigs anymore. |
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Ed Iarusso
From: East Haddam, CT US of A
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 5:40 am
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Played outside last night. Once it gets into the low 60's or so my right hand just doesn't want to work. I always make this point to the band when they want book outside gigs this time of year. I tell them I don't want to do gigs after 5pm outdoors. Once the sun starts going down so does the temperature. Some times they listen. Hey I'm just the steel player. Heaven forbid asking one of the singers to do something they don't like to do |
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Dave Diehl
From: Mechanicsville, MD, USA
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 8:18 am
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I was playing outside yesterday and had the opposite problem. They sat us directly in the sun and I it was pretty warm. About 15-20 minutes into the set I heard a Pop as a string makes when it breaks but knew it wasn't that. I started looking around and the E9th fretboard had expanded from the direct sunlight and poped up off my wood necks about an 1/8 inch. It went back down after it had been back inside for a while but now I know the adhesive under it is loose. Buddy Charlton once told me he was playing in the sun once and the mica on the front of the guitar bowed out from the guitar about 2 inches. |
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 10:03 am
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Last Sun.I played outside at the Alaska State Fair on an outdoor stage while it was misting out,Froze my butt off...It was so cold out that I saw a lawyer with his hands in his own pockets. _________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 10:13 am
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good one, stu!
curt...there's still gold there. a friend of mine owns property just over the hill from the coloma gold discovery site.
foresthill had some talented folk...the forest hillbillies and the stardust cowboys...and that's where i bought my $700 d10 emmons... |
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Richard Sinkler
From: aka: Rusty Strings -- Missoula, Montana
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 11:14 am
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Played a gig in Eureka CA one time that was outside, very hot and very humid. Set up my ZB (at the time) and went up to it maybe an hour later, and the glue on the fretboard failed and the fretboard bowed up around the 12th fret or so, and was touching the bottom of the strings. Had to go into town, get some super glue and glue it back down so I could play. I would rather not play at all than play outside under any conditions. _________________ Carter D10 8p/8k, Dekley S10 3p/4k C6 setup,Regal RD40 Dobro, Recording King Professional Dobro, NV400, NV112,Ibanez Gio guitar, Epiphone SG Special (open D slide guitar) . Playing for 54 years and still counting. |
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Jim Smith
From: Midlothian, TX, USA
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Posted 12 Sep 2010 2:28 pm
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I played an outside gig last night on Lake Grapevine. It was "on" the lake too, as it was a floating restaurant. It was still 90 degrees when I got home, and had to take a cold shower to cool down.
It was so hot and muggy that I got sick to my stomach.
Every time we did a fast song, the dancers got the whole dance area bouncing up and down, and I got seasick every time I looked at my fretboard. |
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 19 Sep 2010 10:32 am
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I played at a wedding yesterday in Chickaloon Alaska right next to the Matanuska river,We started out on the front porch of a beautiful Lodge that my friend owns,The sun was Texas bright about 70 degrees just perfect weather,after the ceremony we moved into a huge tent structure that was built for the wedding,At about 9:00pm it got down to 40 degrees and we played until 11:30pm,it had to be 35 degrees when we stopped,The end plates of my guitar were almost frozen and my fingers didn't work anymore...Some one came up to me and asked if was cold?We could see our breath while we were playing,I finally told the band leader that I'm going home.BRrrrrrrrrrrr!! _________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Fooch Fischetti
From: Woodstock, NY US
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Posted 20 Sep 2010 9:43 am
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After a number of cold outdoor gigs in upstate NY through the years, I noticed that I got much colder when I was playing steel than fiddle. I came to the conclusion that the bar was getting cold and acting as a heat sync drawing heat from me.
I came up with a method that has been working pretty good for me. I bring two bars and a thermos of hot water. I keep one bar in the water to get as hot as I can hold comfortably, then I dry it with a towel and switch bars. I find that the warm bar actually warms me a little. I also keep the bar in my pocket instead of leaving it on the steel to cool off when I switch to my other instrument.
If i'm caught by surprise and not prepared, I can often get a cup of hot water from someone selling hot tea to help me get through.
You might think twice before trying this method with a bar that is plated and not solid stainless steel or one with a birthstone. |
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Ed Iarusso
From: East Haddam, CT US of A
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Posted 20 Sep 2010 10:04 am
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Fooch...that was a bar in your pocket? I thought you were just happy to see me. BTW see you in Norwalk in a few weeks
Ed |
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 20 Sep 2010 10:23 am
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Fooch,I've been using one of those Zirconia bars that seems to pick up heat from my hands,Maybe sitting down is part of the problem? _________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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Fooch Fischetti
From: Woodstock, NY US
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Posted 20 Sep 2010 10:47 am
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Ed, I guess I left myself open for that one See you in Norwalk!
Stu, I wouldn't begin to suggest how to handle the cold in Alaska, you must have it figured out by now.
Fooch |
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Stu Schulman
From: Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 20 Sep 2010 10:57 am
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Fooch,next time I'm bringing an electric blanket!I wish we lived closer to each other. _________________ Steeltronics Z-pickup,Desert Rose S-10 4+5,Desert Rose Keyless S-10 3+5... Mullen G2 S-10 3+5,Telonics 206 pickups,Telonics volume pedal.,Blanton SD -10,Emmons GS_10...Zirctone bar,Bill Groner Bar...any amp that isn't broken.Steel Seat.Com seats...Licking paint chips off of Chinese Toys since 1952. |
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John Billings
From: Ohio, USA
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Posted 20 Sep 2010 2:37 pm
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Come on guys! 40 degrees? We played on a flatbed truck at the end of Cleveland's Winterfest. January 2 or 3. They were carving ice statues in front of the "stage!" It was about 10 degrees! I wore a parka, and fingerless gloves. Every time I exhaled, more ice developed on my mustache. I had to keep reachin' up and crackin' it off! My Kline stayed in tune. It was a miserable gig. The gig from when Hell froze over. I wish it had been 30 or 40 degrees! |
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