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Topic: Gram Parsons.....The New Soft Shoe? |
Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 31 Aug 2010 9:54 am |
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I've been driving around listening to this for about a week,I assume it's Buddy Emmons on steel?I was wondering if anybody has any info on this recording session?Was it live or an overdub session?It's a real study in chimes just beautiful stuff. 
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Jim Pitman
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Waterbury Ctr. VT 05677 USA
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Posted 31 Aug 2010 11:16 am
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I agrea Stu. Wonderful tune. So tasteful.
I think it's mentioned in my biography of Graham Parsons book at home. I do recall it being Emmons.
I'll check this eve and get back to you.
I hung out with Niel Flanz at one of the St Loise conventions a while back and he was a real treasure trove of info including pictures from the era when he toured with Parsons.
Perhaps Buddy himself will pipe in. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 31 Aug 2010 11:19 am
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Jim,Thanks a friend gave me a CD of both albums but no credits on there it just sounds like The large "E" to me.
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ebb
From:
nj
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Olli Haavisto
From:
Jarvenpaa,Finland
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Posted 31 Aug 2010 11:37 am
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Emmons on the GP album and Al Perkins on the Grievous Angel.
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Dave Harmonson
From:
Seattle, Wa
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Posted 31 Aug 2010 12:35 pm
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Al Perkins plays all of the steel on Grievous Angel, but it's Buddy and Al on GP and it is not noted who plays on which tune. Pretty sure that's Buddy on "New Soft shoe". Love the tremolo guitar from JB on that track, too. Does anybody make sense of the lyrics for New Soft shoe. Never made any sense to me. Maybe they're meant not to make sense.
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Archie Nicol R.I.P.
From:
Ayrshire, Scotland
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Posted 31 Aug 2010 2:21 pm
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Thousand Dollar Wedding? I'm sure they could have got it cheaper back then.....and written a song that I could understand!
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scott murray
From:
Asheville, NC
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Posted 31 Aug 2010 2:50 pm
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I asked Buddy once about the 'GP' album and he had no recollection of it whatsoever.
'New Soft Shoe' is about auto maker E.L. Cord, at least the first verse is.
'$1000 Wedding' is Gram's attempt at a tragic country ballad in the Haggard vein. The narrative is a little awkward but it's pretty understandable.
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 31 Aug 2010 8:16 pm
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Scott,I though it was about the Cord autos also,I would really like to know if it was and overdub session with a bunch of people standing around saying play this and then play that or is Buddy just winging it?Or is it the whole band cutting it live and that stuff is off the top of his head,That kind of stuff sparks my interest,The way the steel follows the vocal is just frightening and sounds so fresh that I'm guessing it was maybe the first time that he had heard it.
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 1 Sep 2010 5:03 am
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In the Ben Fong - Torres book it is said, that between the recording sessions of GP, the musicians worked out the arrangements of the songs in their hotel rooms.
It was always a sign for me that they must have liked his style. No further details are given. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 1 Sep 2010 8:24 am
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| yeah stu..that's the gooey buddy sound that no one else can get. that's what grabbed my acid tinged ears and wouldn't let go. i just keep forgetting that sound every time i hear myself. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 1 Sep 2010 9:33 am
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Chris,Gooey is a great way to describe it!Hope you are doing well.
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Larry Bell
From:
Englewood, Florida
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Ron Whitfield
From:
Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Ben Jones
From:
Seattle, Washington, USA
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Al Moss
From:
Kent,OH,USA
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Posted 2 Sep 2010 9:24 am
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On a more recently released 3 disc box set of Gram's recorded stuff "Complete Reprise Sessions", one of the discs is of alternate, newly mixed, not previously released tracks. There are a lot of identical solos and fills on the work cuts that suggest that the guys and gal had things pretty well figured out that went down on the final releases. "1,000 Dollar Wedding" isn't one of those, but, "She" is with its' lovely harmonics on the tail of the bridge section.
Product Description--:::from the Amazon page for this disc:::
Singer-songwriter Gram Parsons, the architect of country-rock and patron saint of American roots music—"alt" and otherwise—died in 1973 at age 26, but the enormity of his influence remains constant. Florida-born and Georgia-bred, Parsons began playing at age 14 and launched his first group, the International Submarine Band, in NYC in the late ‘60s. Transplanted to L.A., he joined the Byrds, shaping their landmark album Sweetheart Of The Rodeo, and made further musical history with the Flying Burrito Brothers. After discovering Emmylou Harris playing in a D.C. bar, he went on to record two now-legendary solo LPs, GP and Grievous Angel, that spotlight the peerless harmony of their divergent voices, hers angelic and pure, his ragged and scorched by his demons. Rhino’s historic set presents those two soulful albums remastered and expanded, plus a third disc of precious alternate takes from those recordings. |
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 2 Sep 2010 9:32 am
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Al,Very cool I might have to get that.
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 2 Sep 2010 10:27 am
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JamesBurton and Buddy Emmons.
Like on The Judy Collins "Who Knows Where The Time Goes" album. |
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Frank Freniere
From:
The First Coast
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 1:06 pm
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| It's gotta be Buddy on "That's All It Took." |
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 2:07 pm
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| Frank, would you please write the tablature for this one, if you have the time. Thanks. |
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Frank Freniere
From:
The First Coast
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Posted 3 Dec 2010 2:21 pm
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Bruce Bouton
From:
Nash. Tn USA
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Posted 4 Dec 2010 8:59 pm
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Stu
Those were the days, albeit too brief. I saw Gram and Emmy. At the the time i wanted to play guitar so I hung out in front of Clarence White even though Sneaky was playing steel. tragically Gram and clarence died a month later.
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Stu Schulman
From:
Ulster Park New Yawk (deceased)
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Posted 5 Dec 2010 9:47 am
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Bruce,Nice to see you here,I used to be a big Clarence White fan myself,Still play some of his stuff on 6 string every now and then.I recently got some live Emmy Lou and Gram videos with Neil Flanz on them and his playing is so great...All those guys played for the love of the song,Maybe I'm just getting old and stupid?I'd love to see you one day,Maybe catch a king?Have a Happy Holiday my friend.
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