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Topic: When Nashville was about country music |
Rick Campbell
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Michael Robertson
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Ventura, California. USA
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Posted 24 Aug 2010 4:25 pm Paycheck |
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I think Johnny Paycheck had one of the best country voices going.
Sad he passed away broke. I understand there was a fund raiser for him.
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By the way Rick I fired up my leaf blower to dry off my steel after the scrubbing.
Worked great….. Just a suggestion.
I ran some ATF over the changer……….Man that thing is smooth now! |
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Kevin Hatton
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Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 24 Aug 2010 9:55 pm
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| Paycheck is country music. Believe me, its still being made. Daryll Singeltary is just one. Check out "She Sure Looks Good In Black". |
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 4:23 am
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When I was about five or six years old my parents bought a record called 'Top Country and Western Hits'. It was on a low budget label and it had cover tunes by lesser known country performers from the late 1950s - early 1960s era. One of the songs on that record was Johnny Paycheck's version of 'Same Old Me', and to this day I say it is the best version of that song I ever heard. It's got all the right ingredients - guitar, bass, drums, fiddle, and (non-pedal) steel. I wore that record out.
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Jack Stoner
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 6:27 am
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Donnie Young and Hal Rugg. A great combination.
Paycheck would have done more if he could have kept himself out of jail.
There are still some that are doing "real" country music but the commercial radio stations won't play it.
Fortunatly I'm in a band that ONLY does traditonal country music. |
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Cal Sharp
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the farm in Kornfield Kounty, TN
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 6:43 am
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Great, Rick. This is the kind of stuff that made me want to play steel. Luckily, I still get to play music like this. If I were 20 years old again, there's not much on the radio these days that would inspire me to be a steel player.
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Mark Eaton
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Sonoma County in The Great State Of Northern California
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 7:07 am
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| Jack Stoner wrote: |
Paycheck would have done more if he could have kept himself out of jail.
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Jack, I guess one could extrapolate on that theme until the cows come home regarding the self destructive tendencies of some artists. An extreme example might be: "Jimi Hendrix would have done more if he didn't overdose on drugs."
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Andy Greatrix
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Edmonton Alberta
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 9:43 am
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| Not only did Johnny Paycheck have one of the best country voices going, but the level his intuitive musical sensibilities of feel and time were right off of the Richter scale. |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 5:18 pm
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| Jack Stoner wrote: |
Donnie Young and Hal Rugg. A great combination.
Paycheck would have done more if he could have kept himself out of jail.
There are still some that are doing "real" country music but the commercial radio stations won't play it.
Fortunatly I'm in a band that ONLY does traditonal country music. |
Jack - Actually Donnie Lytle. I regret the jail thing too, but I think Johnny's career was not doing too well, for whatever reason, when that happened. It's a weird thing to say, but I think the jail term, and then his reappearance, gave his career a short lived boost, when he got out. Aside from all that, he's one of the greatest country singers of all time, in my book. You're lucky that you have a band that does that kind on music. I'm about the only guy in town here that even listens to it, let alone play it.
Cal # - If we were twenty again??????? Oh my! I'm with you, if what's on the radio today was my inspiration, then I'd take up stamp collecting or some other exciting hobby. You lucky too if you get to play that kind of music. You don't know what I'd give if there was some interest in that around here. I'm a country fiddler all dressed up and nowhere to go. 
Leslie - Just when I thought I had you figured out you amaze me with a liking for a traditional country cut. I salute you! 
JP - RIP I miss you ole buddy!
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Dave Mudgett
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Central Pennsylvania and Gallatin, Tennessee
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 6:00 pm
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This is a perfect country song, done to perfection. Paycheck is my idea of the perfect country singer. Raw emotion and no BS, especially the early stuff before "Take That Job and Shove It" propelled him into the big-time rock-star world. Don't get me wrong, I like it all, but I'm not sure this was necessarily the best thing for his music (or him, for that matter). Just my opinion.
The stuff he did after he got out of prison is also just killer. I think his voice just kept getting better and better - I can hear the miles in his voice, but I guess I was always a sucker for the real deal.
What can we say about Hal Rugg that hasn't been already said here? His playing is 100% perfect here.
On the music scene - I guess I'm less pessimistic. Yeah, there may not be another Paycheck in the "mainstream", but there are some great musicians and singers out there - I think it's the audience and overall culture that have changed. I wouldn't give up hope, though - there are many possibilities. Hardcore roots music like real country and blues has always thrived on hard times. If the whole thing collapses under its own weight, there may be a silver lining.
My take, anyway. |
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 6:31 pm Re: When Nashville was about country music
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The sad thing is that song never even made it on the charts, and the album it was on, "11 Months & 29 Days", only made it to number 40 on the album charts. Yet at that same time "Dave & Sugar" had the number 1 song and number 3 album, so really Nashville hasn't changed one bit!
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Andy Greatrix
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Edmonton Alberta
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 6:57 pm
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| It’s like Buck Owens said, “Radio is in the advertising business not the music business!”. Advertisers want cheerful musak background, not heart-wrenching emotional music that will take attention away from cheerful commercials aimed at the 18 to 30 year old crowd. That's why I don't listen to commercial radio anymore. |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 8:32 pm Re: When Nashville was about country music
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The sad thing is that song never even made it on the charts, and the album it was on, "11 Months & 29 Days", only made it to number 40 on the album charts. Yet at that same time "Dave & Sugar" had the number 1 song and number 3 album, so really Nashville hasn't changed one bit! |
Real quick, from memory.............. someone name me one Dave and Sugar song (without cheating and looking it up)
I expect some answers, but I don't think they had any country standards. At least nothing as great as Tom Jones "Green Green Grass of Home"
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Alvin Blaine
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Picture Rocks, Arizona, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 8:50 pm Re: When Nashville was about country music
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| Rick Campbell wrote: |
| Alvin Blaine wrote: |
The sad thing is that song never even made it on the charts, and the album it was on, "11 Months & 29 Days", only made it to number 40 on the album charts. Yet at that same time "Dave & Sugar" had the number 1 song and number 3 album, so really Nashville hasn't changed one bit! |
Real quick, from memory.............. someone name me one Dave and Sugar song (without cheating and looking it up)
I expect some answers, but I don't think they had any country standards. At least nothing as great as Tom Jones "Green Green Grass of Home"
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I couldn't name you one song of their, and I'm kind of proud of that. They were a bit to much of that Nashville syrup pop for me. They did have their first number one at the time that Paycheck had out the song you posted, that's about all I know.
Wait didn't they do that "Knock Three Times" song? I remember that as a lame song from the mid-'70s.
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Andy Greatrix
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 10:33 pm
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| The had a very sanctimonious version of "The Queen Of The Silver Dollar". |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 10:45 pm Re: When Nashville was about country music
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| Rick Campbell wrote: |
| Alvin Blaine wrote: |
The sad thing is that song never even made it on the charts, and the album it was on, "11 Months & 29 Days", only made it to number 40 on the album charts. Yet at that same time "Dave & Sugar" had the number 1 song and number 3 album, so really Nashville hasn't changed one bit! |
Real quick, from memory.............. someone name me one Dave and Sugar song (without cheating and looking it up)
I expect some answers, but I don't think they had any country standards. At least nothing as great as Tom Jones "Green Green Grass of Home"
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I couldn't name you one song of their, and I'm kind of proud of that. They were a bit to much of that Nashville syrup pop for me. They did have their first number one at the time that Paycheck had out the song you posted, that's about all I know.
Wait didn't they do that "Knock Three Times" song? I remember that as a lame song from the mid-'70s. |
I'm not sure but I think Knock Three Times might have been Billy Crash Craddock. It not important enought for me to worry about being right about it.
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 26 Aug 2010 4:42 am
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"The Door Is Always Open" is one.
Plenty of shoe filling going on in country today. JMO |
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Leslie Ehrlich
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Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada
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Posted 26 Aug 2010 5:31 am Re: When Nashville was about country music
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| Leslie - Just when I thought I had you figured out you amaze me with a liking for a traditional country cut. I salute you! |
Although I don't play country music, there are a lot of 'traditional' country songs I enjoy listening to.
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| Real quick, from memory.............. someone name me one Dave and Sugar song (without cheating and looking it up) |
I have a Dave and Sugar album. It has my favourite D&S tune on it - 'The Door is Always Open'. I believe that one was written by Dickie Lee.
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Alan Tanner
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Near Dayton, Ohio
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Posted 26 Aug 2010 4:06 pm
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| The Queen of the Silver Dollar.....and the ONLY reason I remember this is because I backed a guy named Doyle Holly who did a show at the Bowling Alley in Thomasborough, Ill way back in the EARLY 70's. He had it out on a single at that time I believe. I was playing with a local bunch who had a lead singer named Bill Morrison. If I remember correctly, and I may not cuz its real gray about this time in history, I think Doyle picked up Bill to open for him later on the road. |
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John De Maille
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On a Mountain in Upstate Halcottsville, N.Y.
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Posted 27 Aug 2010 1:57 pm
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I got to play with JP at the Lonestar Cafe' in NYC, when Big Jim Murphy walked out on him. It was quite an experience and a memory I'll NEVER forget.
He was really a great singer and very responsive to steel playing. The only drawback was trying to play like Big Jim. It didn't happen. Johnny came over to me and leaned down and said "Just play your own stuff. You sound great! Hey, Do you want to go to Canada with us?" I didn't go to Canada, but, I enjoyed the night immensely. |
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