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Topic: 5th and 10th string open B to a 5th and 10th A# |
Wayne D. Clark
From: Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 12:28 pm
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Does any one have a lever set up to lower the open 5th and 10 string [B} to an [A#]? When I purchased my PGS it had a Virtical liver set up to make this change. it also has the standard "A pedal set up to raise [B] to a [C] I have other question but I'll stick to this one for now.
Wayne D. Clark
Desert Rose S10 3/5
Goodrich Pedal
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Paul Sutherland
From: Placerville, California
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 12:36 pm
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That's a very standard change, and it is often placed on the vertical lever; that's where I have it. I only lower the 5th string a half tone, but it is not uncommon to lower both 5 & 10 a half tone each. |
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Wayne D. Clark
From: Montello Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 12:50 pm
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Thanks Paul
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Bent Romnes
From: London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 1:07 pm
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Paul, could you please list a couple of things that this change is good for? I never seem to grasp this lever and it bugs me.
I call it the Together Again lever cause that's all I know to use it on!
Hey maybe even one of your great video demos would be great for showing me(us) _________________ BenRom Pedal Steel Guitars
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Paul Sutherland
From: Placerville, California
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Posted 25 Aug 2010 2:11 pm
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Bent: I've been thinking for some time about a video on use of this lever. I'm retired so deadlines mean nothing to me, but I'll get to it soon. Paul |
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CrowBear Schmitt
From: Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Tony Prior
From: Charlotte NC
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Posted 26 Aug 2010 1:40 am
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here ya go again,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvtGqa6l3f4
The power of strings 5 and 8 ( with the X lever) is almost crazy, if you are looking for licks , stop that.
Instead look at the individual string and what the raise and lowers offer in relationship to relative positions. The 5th string along with the full tone lower offers 4 scale notes out of a single position,natural, "A" pedal raise, Bb lever and Franklin pedal, without the full tone drop , 3 scale notes including the X lever ( Bb) , this is amazing power in relative positions especially with the 8th string which also has 3 moves, natural E raise and E lower. But don't limit yourself to just that combo. Study the guitar, not licks.
Just my take
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ps, I don't lower 10 with the X lever, just 5...I may put the 10th string drop back on later in life. _________________ Emmons L-II , Fender Telecasters, B-Benders , Eastman Mandolin ,
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Bent Romnes
From: London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 26 Aug 2010 7:19 am
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Crowbear, Thanks, I'll have to brush up on my French I see... Maybe in some lucid moment I will figure it out
Tony, I'll certainly take your advice to heart.
Paul, from one retiree to another...whenever you find the inspiration..I am subscribed to your youtube.
Thanks! _________________ BenRom Pedal Steel Guitars
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 26 Aug 2010 10:48 am
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Tony Prior wrote: |
Study the guitar, not licks.
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Tony, that just might be the best advise anybody on this forum ever gave. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
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Barry Gaskell
From: Cheshire, UK
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Posted 27 Aug 2010 2:27 am
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Hi Wayne
On an intellectual level......As Tony said and Mike endorsed.......Study the guitar, not the licks. Absolutely spot on....the advice of the day.
On a technical level, as has been mentioned, most people seem to have it on their left vertical. Hopefully your guitar will have across the board pedal splits. Set these right and you have a very versatile pedal and vastly improve your chordal options. If you have it operating on your tenth string as well, it enables you to lower (and the fifth) four semitones accurately. You can play around with the tenth string lowering and whilst lowering the fifth the standard semi-tone, you can get some interesting chords if you lower the tenth a tone or even a tone and a half.
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