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Topic: Kay Adams' Wheels&Tears/Little Pink Mack. Who plays PSG? |
scott murray
From: Asheville, NC
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Posted 6 Aug 2010 7:37 pm
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just wondering... read a review that says Ralph Mooney (along w/ James Burton) but I don't buy it.
The playing is more Lloyd Green-style, and did Moon EVER play a fuzz-tone solo?
I'm thinking some lesser-known Bakersfield player like Leo LeBlanc or...? The year was 1966. _________________ 1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster
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Skeeter Stultz
From: LOMITA, California, USA
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Posted 6 Aug 2010 8:01 pm
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I've been told,Bobby Garret. I think he was living and working in San Diego at the time. _________________ GFI ULTRA D-10, EVANS, FENDER 2000 (WORN OUT) TWIN REVERB W/JBL'S, OLD 4-10 BASSMAN |
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B. Greg Jones
From: Middleport, Ohio USA
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Posted 6 Aug 2010 9:28 pm
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In 66', Kay was part of the Buck Owens Ranch shows. Could it have been Tom Brumley???? |
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scott murray
From: Asheville, NC
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Posted 6 Aug 2010 10:44 pm
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Bobby Garrett... very interesting.
the more i listen to "Little Pink Mack" the more i think it's Lloyd.
there just weren't too many players with that Lloyd Green sound in 1966. only one i can really think of...
listen to it HERE
http://blogfiles.wfmu.org/DY/Little_Pink_Mack_-_Kay_Adams.mp3 _________________ 1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster |
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Mitch Drumm
From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 6 Aug 2010 11:02 pm
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The session was held May 24, 1966 at the Capitol studios, 1750 North Vine, Hollywood, California.
Is there any reason to believe Lloyd Green ever did any recording in the 1960s in California?
I suppose it is possible he flew out for the session, but?? |
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scott murray
From: Asheville, NC
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Posted 7 Aug 2010 12:27 am
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unlikely? i suppose.
although he did travel west in '68 to help the Byrds finish the 'Sweetheart of the Rodeo' album.
it just sounds like Lloyd to me. _________________ 1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster |
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Tommy Minniear
From: Logansport, Indiana
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Posted 7 Aug 2010 3:57 am
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I am in the process of reading Buck Owen's biography and although I've never heard the recording, it is defiantely during the "Tom Brumley" era of steel playing in Buck's recording endeavors. |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 7 Aug 2010 4:31 pm
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Thats not Tom Brumley from what I can hear. Neither tone nor style. I'm wondering Leo Leblanc. |
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Jim Bob Sedgwick
From: Clinton, Missouri USA
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Posted 7 Aug 2010 6:12 pm Kay Adams
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Kevin is Right... Leo used to emulate a lot of Lloyds playing, but still had his own sound |
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Jeff Evans
From: Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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B. Greg Jones
From: Middleport, Ohio USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 6:35 am
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I just listened to the Kay Adams song link and its for sure not Brumley. I just mentioned him before as I know Kay was part of the Buck Owens show. Sure sounds like vintage Lloyd though!!! Who ever it is, thats some nice pickin'!!! |
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chris ivey
From: california (deceased)
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 7:59 am
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sounds like a fender to me...or zb...yeah..could be don and tom..
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ebb
From: nj
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 1:38 pm
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it sounds exactly like tom brumley to me and also don rich for sure |
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Kevin Macneil Brown
From: Montpelier, VT, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 3:43 pm
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Hmmmm... I'm the one who wrote the offending review a few years back, and now all this has got me looking for the source I used when I credited Mooney and Burton. I'm chagrinned to say that I can't remember what/where it was. (I certainly do agree that the sounds don't always quite match what I know of those players. )
My sincere apologies if I've propagated misinformation. I'll keep digging-- though there are clearly some excellent shovels in the ground already. |
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scott murray
From: Asheville, NC
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 5:40 pm
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the plot thickens...!
turns out a friend of mine knows Kay and here's the information she gave:
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Peaches Price on drums, Gentleman Jim on piano, Ralph Mooney on steel, Gene Moles & James Burton guitars, I forget who's on bass, maybe Bob Morris? |
I really need to get my record player working so I can give the whole album a spin. I know Leo LeBlanc did a lot of studio work with Gene Moles, while Mooney worked more with James Burton. Maybe they're all on there.
but Lloyd is listed as the player on "Little Pink Mack" over at lloydgreentribute.com and between Lloyd's studio logs and Walter's devoted research, I trust that information 100%. _________________ 1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 6:13 pm
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I would vote for Lloyd. Thats his exact style and also that is a Sho-Bud guitar tone identifiable by anyone who is much into Sho-Buds. I'd be surprised if it wasn't. Interesting. I never thought he did alot of west coast work. I believe that its him. Doesn't sound like Moon. Scott, where is Kay, and does she still sing? I have seen her on the old Buck Owens Ranch show tapes. She recorded well. Good country material. |
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scott murray
From: Asheville, NC
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 7:44 pm
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i just downloaded Kay's "Make Mine Country" album and it's definitely Moon on that one. _________________ 1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster |
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Ian Miller
From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 8:32 pm
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While I'm not sure 100% that it is him on the original (about 98%, though ), there is definitely some true-blue Lloyd-on-a-Sho Bud Permanent worship on aural display in Lisa & Her Kin's brand spankin' new cover version here: 02 Little Pink Mack.mp3
Who's Lisa & Her Kin? Well, that would be my sister Lisa, me on Tele, and forumite Russ Blake mashin' pedals! The track was produced by other forumite Deke Dickerson, and I think fans of sassy 60's PSG should get a charge out of it. |
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Dave Biller
From: Texas, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 9:19 pm
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according to Lloyd's tribute site, it is indeed him. not sure who played the 6 string guitar (Gene Moles, maybe?) but it is definitely not James Burton. Ian, you and Russ are both kickin' butt on that track!.... |
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Ian Miller
From: Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 8 Aug 2010 11:16 pm
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Thanks, comin' from you, that means a lot, trust me! |
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scott murray
From: Asheville, NC
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Posted 9 Aug 2010 9:49 am
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Kay is living in Idaho. Unfortunately she's not performing these days.
She recorded with BR5-49 on a great compilation of trucking songs called Rig Rock Deluxe, but that was almost 15 years ago... _________________ 1965 Emmons S-10, 3x5 • Emmons LLIII D-10, 10x12 • JCH D-10, 10x12 • Beard MA-8 • Oahu Tonemaster |
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Jason Odd
From: Stawell, Victoria, Australia
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Posted 14 Aug 2010 6:59 am
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Most of the Tower stuff was seperate to Buck's little empire at Capitol, I'd put money down for Leo LeBlanc and Gene Moles. _________________ Reintarnation: Coming back to life as a hillbilly. |
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