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Topic: help selecting "student" pedal steel |
Mike Harris
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Posted 22 Jun 2010 10:52 am |
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My best options in a used guitar:
1) a Sho-Bud Maverick S-10, (3 pedals, 1 lever) looks well-worn
2)waiting for a Carter Starter to show up (they do, occasionally)
3) something else (open to suggestions)?
thanks,
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Jim Cinney
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Tehachapi California, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2010 11:44 am
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| in a single phrase Stage One!! |
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Chris Dorch
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2010 12:09 pm
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Stage One
Carpsteel/Legend
GFI Student
BSG S10
Non-Modern but great steels all around for learning and cost effective..
MSA Semi-Classic
Some Sierras
There are loads of new and used options. Out of personal opinion, I would suggest avoiding any 3X1's. You can get a newer or older 3x2/3/4/5 pretty easily. And, while I have never owned one, most people don't give ultra high marks for a Carter Starter.. Good, yes..
YMMV...
Do you have a budget? You might get better info if you mentioned that.. |
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Karen Sarkisian
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Boston, MA, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2010 12:53 pm
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I am extremely happy that my first steel was and still is a Stage One !!
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Bryan Daste
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Portland, Oregon, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2010 1:46 pm
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If you can't find a good student model (like the ones listed above), you may try for a used Dekley or MSA singleneck. They seem to go for much cheaper than other brands and are decent "pro" guitars. I recently bought a Dekley off a friend as a "travel" steel, found a flight case to use for it etc, and it has worked out great so far. If you can, buy local and have someone knowledgeable check out the mechanics. Or you can buy from any of the reputable dealers who frequent the forum. Avoid ebay, usually.
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Bob Knight
From:
Bowling Green KY
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Mike Harris
From:
Texas, USA
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Posted 22 Jun 2010 3:56 pm
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Thanks to all who replied.
There is sort of a budget--In the last couple of days I saw a Carter for 450 locally and the shobud for 350 (with Goodrich pedal) and thought this might be the time to take the plunge.
The Carter now has been sold and I would like to find out more about Stage One and the others mentioned. |
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Larry Baker
From:
Columbia, Mo. U.S.A.
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Posted 22 Jun 2010 3:59 pm
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Doug Earnst in Branson, Mo. would be the man to contact, it will do every thing you will need for a long time, and Doug is a great guy. Larry
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Joey Ace
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 22 Jun 2010 4:18 pm
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There is no doubt a Stage One is superior to the two you mentioned, but you also mentioned "budget".
A used Carter Starter is way better than a Mav, and can
be found for half the price of a Stage One.
Of course the resale value of the better guitar is higher so buy the best you can afford.
http://www.stageonesteelguitars.com/ |
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Bob Vantine
From:
Freeville, New York, USA
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Posted 23 Jun 2010 3:06 am STAGE ONE PSG .......for me
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I had a list of requirements when I was looking for a new steel...all pretty much caused from an accident & health related issues .
1) RELIABILITY didn't want to start out w/ repairs 2)WEIGHT had to be fairly lite
3) BUDGET FRIENDLY why spend $$$$$ on a chance of limited usefulness
4)SOUND "not" cheap/crappy
5)EQUIPPED had to be 3pd/4kl - did not want to settle for less
6)CUSTOMER SERVICE had to be dependable,thoughtful,helpful,understanding
7) LOOKS had to look classic...like a quality(expensive) steel should
8)GOOD ENOUGH for a pro to play (thanks to Michael Douchette...for taking time to discuss merits of this guitar...MAJOR DECIDING FACTOR)
9)WAIT as in I didn't have to 
10)and it came with a pedal board / not all tore up !  (sorry couldn't resist)
 CHOICE : my brand new teak mica STAGE ONE from Doug Earnest
started out 30 years ago on Mavericks .They were fine then, but why now when training material - $$$$ - quality instruments are what they are today.
 Wanted another ShoBud - could have afforded another,didn't want to lug or repair one . Made right choice for me ...no regrets !
See picture of new guitar in other post .
Good luck ! 
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John McClung
From:
Olympia WA, USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2010 1:52 am
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The difference between the Stage One and Carter Starter is astonishing. Buy the former, avoid the latter, this is the best advice you'll get this month, my friend!
I've seen both with my students, the Stage One is the best bargain around, plays great, sounds great, incredible value. The little you save with the Carter will only lead to aggravation.
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Don Drummer
From:
West Virginia, USA
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Posted 24 Jun 2010 6:51 pm
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| Stage One. It might be a big step but you will use it longer and not feel like trading up for a long time. Don D |
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Michael Douchette
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Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Bob Vantine
From:
Freeville, New York, USA
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Posted 27 Jun 2010 5:57 am
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Mikey D......
What's with the Mr, Mr 
 forgot yours was TEAL ,very cool
thanks again for your help , should be in gnashville end of July , hope to see you .
****Bob V****
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"TEAK" ZUM STAGE-ONE Steel / C6th Lapsteel
Peavey NV112 , CLASSIC and EFX112 amps
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Michael Douchette
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Gallatin, TN (deceased)
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Doug Earnest
From:
Branson, MO USA
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Posted 27 Jun 2010 7:21 am
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| Being extra polite at 1 a.m. has helped me out of a few tight spots over the years....... |
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Bob Vantine
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Freeville, New York, USA
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Posted 27 Jun 2010 9:12 am
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Oh yeh.................I remember those days 
Doug.....between the sound bites on your site & Mr.D using his Stage One in the studio ,how could we go wrong . I got another SO owner(Butch David) to help break mine in with me last friday nite .Had his black & my teak set up side by side .
Am lovin'it don't know why I waited so long to get back into it .
Thanks again to Mikey D & Doug
****Bob V****
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