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Austin Tripp
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Posted 11 Jun 2010 2:49 pm |
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First of all, if you don't know what "the Blade" is, your in the wrong forum hehe. What year model and serial number is the Blade? Is it a wraparound or cut tail? I've heard this before but I can't remember. Thanks in advance!!
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Chris Lucker
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Posted 11 Jun 2010 3:33 pm Which "The Blade?"
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There were actually more than one The Blade, there is just one now.
Are you referring to one or more black 1964 Emmons Wraprounds, such as 1264017 that were called The Blade? Maybe the rosewood mica Cut Tail cutback 1136D from 1968? CORRECTED BELOW TO 1967
I do not know that Buddy Emmons did not call his 1957 Sho-Bud The Blade as well. My 1957 cuts pretty darn well. It is a Bigsby and Fender killer.
Here is a funny February 2000 quote from Buddy Emmons regarding his "Touch My Heart" tone:
"I'd like to say that the sound I was referring to was a sound of the times. Today, when Peggy wants to make slaw for dinner, I put some of the old cuts on to help her shred the lettuce."
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Red Bellies, Bigsbys and a lot of other guitars.
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Austin Tripp
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Posted 11 Jun 2010 3:47 pm
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The 68' is the one I was refering to. I just couldn't remember the serial number or year. For some reason I thought it was a 67' Wraparound and the serial was 1134D. Thanks for the info Chris!!!
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Chris Lucker
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Posted 11 Jun 2010 4:19 pm
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1136D could be a 1967 rather than a 1968, but I had paperwork showing 1090D was essentially a Christmas 1967 delivered guitar.
CORRECTION: I BELIEVE BOBBY BOGGS AND OTHERS WHO HAVE TOLD ME THAT THE ROSEWOOD BLADE IS A 1967. However, 1090D was a Christmas 1967 guitar.
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Hook Moore
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Ray McCarthy
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New Hampshire, USA
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Posted 12 Jun 2010 4:33 am
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| Why was this guitar called "the blade" and what was so special about it? (Pardon my ignorance!) |
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Barry Blackwood
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Posted 12 Jun 2010 6:39 am
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Ray, if you will read the preceding posts in this thread, all your questions should be answered.  |
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Austin Tripp
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Posted 12 Jun 2010 7:45 am
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The Blade is the holy grail of all steel guitars. It set the "standard" for tone. Listen to Ray Price's "Don't you ever get tired of hurting me", and you will hear why its the holy grail. Oh yea,,, that guy that owns it aint a bad steel guitarist either. I believe Buddy called it the "blade" because of the cut-through highs.
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 12 Jun 2010 10:42 pm
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FWIW. Buddy told me the Blade is a 67.
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Chris Lucker
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Posted 14 Jun 2010 9:29 am
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| Austin Tripp wrote: |
| The Blade is the holy grail of all steel guitars. It set the "standard" for tone. Listen to Ray Price's "Don't you ever get tired of hurting me", and you will hear why its the holy grail. Oh yea,,, that guy that owns it aint a bad steel guitarist either. I believe Buddy called it the "blade" because of the cut-through highs. |
Austin
I agree with you, but that Blade on the 1965 Ray Price song was likely a 1964 black Mica Wraparound.
The Blade most are referring to in this thread -- the rosewood Cut Tail -- was not built yet and was a few years away.
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Roger Guyett
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Posted 15 Jun 2010 5:37 pm
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hey chris -
where are those early wraparound "blades"? Still owned by Buddy or somewhere out there? |
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Chris Lucker
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Posted 15 Jun 2010 6:17 pm
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I do not know what number the first "Buddie" Emmons Wraparound guitar was, but to relay the story that has been told many times, the 1964 cabinet became a child's wagon.
I assume the second black mica Wraparound Buddy Emmons had was 1264017 which is owned by a Forum member.
There is a blonde lacquer Wraparound from 1965 that Buddy Emmons is photographed sitting behind, but I cannot say whether Buddy Emmons actually used this guitar or if Ron Lashley took the photograph to use as promotional material. Curiously, the photo was used in an Emmons ad announcing the "1966 Model" which would have been the Bolt-on made with ledges to support the Bolt-on axle mounts (to distinguish from the Bolt-ons made with Wraparound necks in November 1964, for example.) The blonde lacquer 1965 Wraparound I mention is a very pretty guitar and it is in Colorado. I pursued it for a few years and lost interest when my interest moved to older blonde lacquer guitars.
Buddy Emmons may have had more Wraparounds. I do not know, maybe others know.
I don't now whether he ever had a Bolt-on, and frankly, I never heard of him having a 1966 so I don't know where the idea of the E66 pickup name came from? E66 sounds better than E67, as I understand now that the Rosewood Mica Blade is a 1967. I should correct what I posted above.
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 15 Jun 2010 9:00 pm
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Chris,I can't say if Buddy ever really used a Bolt-on aluminum neck guitar to gig with or not. I was maybe 6 in 1966. But I can assure he was not a fan of them. Tuning issues being the problem as I'm sure you know.The bolt-om aluminum necks were Ron's idea. Buddy learned that was not a good idea when he played a Bigsby. Maybe Buddy will drop in and everyone can hear it from the horse's mouth.
FWIW. There were some 67 Bolt-on aluminum necks. Not sure how many. Dad had a March 67 Bolt-on that the cabinet bowed on. Ron patched it up. Then replaced it free of charge with an October 67 Bolt-on.
I like the idea for a E67 pickup.
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Talon Ross
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Hook Moore
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 2:00 am
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No, the first and last videos are all pull guitars and I can't really see the guitar in the 2nd video that well.
It looks like "Brown Bart" in all three clips to me.
Hook
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Jack Stanton
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 4:51 am
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Hook,
I believe all three clips are of Buddy playing the SKH Legrand, the "One For The Road Guitar". |
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Bill Ferguson
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 5:33 am
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I recorded the "Night Life" video.
I even set up Buddy's steel that day. He had a long night before and flew in early Sunday morning.
I honestly do not remember but I think that was the "Blade".
When did the SKH LeGrande's come into production?
That should tell us.
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 6:03 am
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Bill the SKH officially went into production in 83. But the 1st one I saw was at a show Charley Ward put on in Ashville NC in Oct 1979. Ron Lashley brought it out to show it off.But Buddy never got near it. He played the pecan colored PP that he so often used on live dates in the 70's.
The video is so dark I can't tell. But I think that's his first SKH. The one used on the One for the Road LP.
If I could hear a slow E9 number. I think I could tell even with the poor audio.
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Hook Moore
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Bill Ferguson
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 6:30 am
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Yep, Bobby, I was at the show in Ashville. I audio taped that show (reel to reel). Some of the audio I sent to Tom Bradshaw and he put out a cassette tape of that. That's the one he accidentally had a couple of Herby's songs at the end.
Now, the "Night Life" video was from 1980, so I still don't know for sure.
Here is "I Love You So Much It Hurts Me" from the same show. Maybe this will help.
I am going to contact Buddy and see if he remembers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ng5B2E0NMM0
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 7:06 am
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Bill, wasn't it the Atlanta show where Tom got Buddy and Herby's tunes mixed up? Herby was not even on the Ashville show I mentioned.
I'm going with the SKH on the video you posted from Atlanta. Bet I'm right. Sure hope I am. This being viewed all over the world and all.
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robert kramer
From:
Nashville TN
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 7:11 am
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According to the story, the Emmons Wraparound that BE played on Price's "Touch My Heart" Columbia LP went to Dickie Overby. Could this be that guitar?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO02NGwvqPU
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Bobby Boggs
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 7:23 am
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My opinion. Yes.
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Bill Ferguson
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 8:09 am
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Bobby,
It was recordings from Ashville that I sent to Tom.
Plus some recordings of Herby from another show.
Tom got stuff mixed up when making the cassette and put some of Herby on the end.
It created quite a stir around the country. It became a BIG joke in the steel guitar world.
There was even a write up in "Steel Guitar World" magazine about this and again later in Jeff's newsletter.
Got me a lot of attention until it was all straightened out. Everyone thought I did it.
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John McGuire
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Posted 16 Jun 2010 8:43 am
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