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Topic: Rock-a-billy steel |
Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Mitch Drumm
From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 14 Apr 2010 9:21 pm
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Ron:
I've liked that record for a long time--one of the earliest legitimate rockabilly records.
Why do you think it is Herb Remington on steel?? It might be--I'm just asking.
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Twayn Williams
From: Portland, OR
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Posted 15 Apr 2010 10:49 am
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Hmm, doesn't sound like Herb to me, not as sophisticated as what I've used to hearing from early Remington. Maybe someone who listened to Herb and pulled a few ideas from him. _________________ Primitive Utility Steel |
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Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2010 11:17 am
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I'm looking for the link to cd's that had the songs, dates, and personel listed, with Herb being stated for Ice Water. I thot it maybe to be Speedy, so Herb would be a fair 2nd guess. |
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Mark Roeder
From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2010 12:01 pm
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Thats cool, I like that rockabilly steel. Someone should just ask Herb if it's him.
I saw an old poster of Herb touring with Elvis in the early fifties and asked him about it at the TSGA. He said he did indeed tour some with Elvis. So there is alittle rockabilly history.
Also,there are some Bill Haley cuts with Billy Williamson on steel around. _________________ www.deluxe34.com lap steel stands, Clinesmith, Gibson Console Grande, Northwesterns, The Best Westerns
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Mitch Drumm
From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 15 Apr 2010 4:03 pm
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Ron:
Here are 3 great mid 50s tunes that I am pretty sure have Herb on them. You should be able to run them down pretty easily.
J. P. Richardson: Crazy Blues
Johnny Mathis: One Life
Roger Miller: Can't Stop Loving You
It sounds like the same band on all 3 records--Herby and probably Doc Lewis on piano--kinda the Mercury/Starday house band at the time.
And of course R. D. Hendon's "No Shoes Boogie" from the early 50s--a classic. |
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Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 15 Apr 2010 4:48 pm
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Just by the song titles alone you know these are winners. Too ![Cool](images/smiles/icon_cool.gif) |
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Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Steve Cunningham
From: Atlanta, GA
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Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 13 Jun 2010 7:50 pm
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And that's just the tip of the iceberg, Steve! I hope to link up much more, asap. |
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Mitch Drumm
From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 14 Jun 2010 12:04 am
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Here are a few rockers with steel; no video; these are 1950s recordings.
Al Barkle from Los Angeles; steel player unknown:
http://picosong.com/Rkf
Spade Cooley; Joaquin Murphey, steel
http://picosong.com/Rk4
Rex Hale, from around Memphis; steel player unknown:
http://picosong.com/Rkj
Ron:
The Fred Calhoun (Papa Calhoun) who played piano for Milton B is not the same guy who played steel for Curtis.
I'm not sure which tracks Calhoun was on with Curtis Gordon. But he was on "Rompin' and Stompin". I think Buddy Emmons recorded with Gordon shortly after he went to Nashville.
There aren't many 50s recordings with steel that are clearly rock and roll or rockabilly as opposed to hopped up western swing or country--probably no more than fifty to a hundred. |
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Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 14 Jun 2010 10:28 am
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Mitch Drumm wrote: |
The Fred Calhoun (Papa Calhoun) who played piano for Milton B is not the same guy who played steel for Curtis. |
Thanx for more tunes, Mitch!
I noticed in my searches there were mentions of a Fred and a Freddie, with Fred always on piano, and Freddie always mentioned as being on steel, with seemingly no crossover. Do we have a parallel universe thing going on here? |
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Mitch Drumm
From: Frostbite Falls, hard by Veronica Lake
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Posted 15 Jun 2010 5:01 am
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Ron:
Here are 2 lists of 1950s hard core rock and roll or rockabilly records that have steel guitar content. I doubt if there are even 5 instances of pedal steel.
Of the 70 plus titles, maybe 10 or 15 might arguably be called western swing or country, depending on your definition of rockabilly.
I'm a strict constructionist, so there's nothing here post 1960.
One instrumental: Nick Nastos (ex-Bill Haley)
Not a hit record in the bunch--maybe not even a charted top 100 record.
You should be able to run these down.
Omitted deliberately:
Bill Haley
Billy Jack Wills
Thousands of uptempo country or western swing records with steel that aren't rockabilly.
Anything I'm sure you have already heard.
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Ron Whitfield
From: Kaaawa, Hawaii, USA
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Posted 15 Jun 2010 10:24 am Thank you sir!
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As always, Mitch, you come thru like a champ, and without requests! I had no idea there was even a list to request..., that'll make searches a breeze.
Cool that you mention one-time Comet Nick Nastos/Masters, even tho he's from that post '60s Haley era. A friend/former neighbor on Oahu owns a Waialua beach home that Nick used to live in. SGForumite Denny Turner was great friends with him until Nick's death.
Nick should deserves some print time here as he never get's any mention anywhere, but was one heck of a guy/musician from what I've heard.
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1245383/bio
Here's a killer track w/Nick http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKww5bUgNrI
Here he's shake'n rattle'n and roll'n with The Man, go Nick! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lz_D0UVYCqU |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From: Helsinki, Finland
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Jim Newberry
From: Seattle, Upper Left America
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Posted 21 Jun 2010 12:06 pm
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I don't have any cool youtube links, but there's a great CD called "Bayou Rockabilly Cats" (http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1011365/a/Bayou+Rockabilly+Cats.htm)that's got some wild steel on it. It isn't standard Cajun style and I don't know who the steel players were on it, but some tasty stuff. _________________ "The Masher of Touch and Tone"
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