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Topic: String Guages For Sho-bud 16 String Guitar |
Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2010 3:33 pm |
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I just purchased this 16 string Sho-Bud, and I need any information that anyone may have on how to set up tuning and strings for it. The guitar has a 22" scale, two pedals and one knee lever. The changer fingers are set up to handle different guage strings somewhat like a 12 string guitar. There is a seperate finger for each string, and they are individually adjustable. I would like to work with some kind of an E tuning, similar to how an 8 string would be set up. Please let me know if you have any ideas on how to set this up.
Thanks,
Bob
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 3 Jun 2010 7:28 pm
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Wow...very cool guitar. I'd love to hear a recording of it once you've got it set up. 
Try this setup...
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 3 Jun 2010 9:11 pm 16 String Tuning
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Thanks for the reply, Ryan. I think the setup may work for me. The photos below show the changer in its current configuration. The setup now is KL Lowers 1&2, 9&10 P2 Raises 5&6, 13&14 P1 Raises 11&12. I believe there is a pull rod missing for what should be 3&4. And for some reason there are fingers at position 7&8, but there is no pull rod. There is a blank in position 3&4, should probably be moved to position 7&8. I believe this would make your setup work. What do you think?
Thanks,
Bob
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Clyde Lane
From:
Glasgow, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 4 Jun 2010 2:51 am
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you have to use the same gauge string on any finger that moves. If for example you use a 22 and a 11 for the G# the 11 requires much more travel than the 22 to pull it to A
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KENNY KRUPNICK
From:
Columbus, Ohio
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Posted 4 Jun 2010 6:26 am
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| Bob, is this 16 string Sho~Bud the one that was owned by Walt Wilson? |
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Bobby Burns
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 4 Jun 2010 6:46 am
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| I'd like to get a look at the underside of that cabinet. |
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 4 Jun 2010 6:55 am 16 String Tuning
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I have not ever seen one of these set up, but looking at the key head It looks like you can use different guage strings on each pill.I think the stops are set for each string giving each string different travel lenghth.I don't know who owend this originally but It would be interesting to know,I was told the last owner was KENNY HADDOCK.I think someone must have ordered it like this, doesn't look like a standard cabinet to me.
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 4 Jun 2010 7:05 am 16 String Tuning
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This is the underside of the guitar,he had it set up with 9 strings,i think there is one pull rod missing.
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 4 Jun 2010 7:38 am 16 String Tuning
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Looking at the back of the casting it has "CHAR" scribed into the surface,same on the keyhead??
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 4 Jun 2010 9:08 am
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| I am insanely jealous, and am heading for the bar to drown my sorrows! That is an exceptional ShoBud Permanent! |
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Eric West
From:
Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jun 2010 2:24 pm
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Alright. I don't have the numbers of the people to check with but two things..
One was that Bud CHARleton is said to have had a cocobola (sp) SB at one time. It was said that when he tried to buy it back the price was too high. I seem to recollect that it was a D10 though..
Two was that "CHAR" might be indicative of a similar owner because it is said that he had a "double strung" SHoBud, though I wasn't clear at the number of strings. Word was that it didn't suit him, and that he just tried it..
I'm sure somebody more "in the know" can provide more info.
Thanks Bob.
Great find either way.
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 5 Jun 2010 7:38 pm 16 string sho-bud
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| Thanks Eric, I think you could possibly be on the right track.You can see that the castings were scribed first then coated.I wonder if they were removed to be coated, then scribed to Id them when they came back?? |
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Bobby Burns
From:
Tennessee, USA
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Posted 6 Jun 2010 7:09 am
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| Bob, as I stated in the wood thread, I love your new guitar. Congratulations. Have you seen the discussion some time back, where one of these came up? I don't remember what thread it was, but I think there was a discussion about how those fingers were supposed to work and such. Is the finger board silkscreened on the wood, instead of on a tin plate? I don't think I've seen that before on a Sho-Bud. By the way, I saw that listed for sale, and as cool as it was, I just couldn't justify getting it. I'm glad that you did. Do you think the black coating on the castings is original? |
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Bob Muller
From:
Oregon, USA
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Posted 6 Jun 2010 9:03 am 16 string sho-bud
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Bobby, first off let me say thanks to you and all the others that have answered for all your help.I am trying to figure out how to Id the differant types of woods,I am only guessing as to the wood types,and looking for more info.The guitar sure looks all original to me,I have done lots of restorations on old things. No one can ever be positive about things like this unless they got them new, but the coating on the castings sure looks original, I have not seen a Sho-Bud like it before. I love the old psg's and I am trying to learn all that I can.I think this is a part of history that should be saved by everyone.There is a photo of the fingers above, there are seperate fingers for each changeable string. They are pulled by a common rod,but can be set to start the pull at a delayed time. I well post more on this when I get It set up and working and see if It works the way I think It does.
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Bob |
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Jerry Overstreet
From:
Louisville Ky
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