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David Kellogg

 

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Tualatin, OR
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 2:26 pm    
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Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat did I just get? I took a chance buying this Emmons off craigslist from an old gentleman in La. He made it sound great, how can you not trust a 85 year old man? this is what showed up. Won't tell you what i paid for it as It seemed like a real bargain at the price he wanted. I may just have to sell the parts, I can at least shine them up. the cabinet is toast, legs rusty, spray painted cabinet after cutting out a notch for probably a fat left leg ham. Why has thou forsaken me? This thing smells like an old musty singlewide. It's like a real bad day at the casino. I was hoping for a early serial number but nope. 2025D. Well I guess if you eat enough apples you will eat a worm.





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John Bechtel


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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 3:01 pm    
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Holy~Cow!, there actually is such an animal! At least you didn't get an empty-case!
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Danny Bates

 

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Fresno, CA. USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 3:20 pm    
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David, Maybe you could donate it to scientists studying the effects of second hand smoke... or maybe the effects of paint sniffing? Laughing
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Herb Steiner

 

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Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 3:21 pm    
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OMG! Rolling Eyes Mad

If Ron Lashley Sr. ever saw that guitar, he wouldn't stop vomiting for a week.
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 3:31 pm    
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Dave,

Take it apart and: If there's no cracks or warping:

1] Disassemble it then clean and polish all the metal (which you're an expert at)

2] send it to Mike Cass and have him mica or refinish the body,(BTW he as a jig that allows him to cut the back apron down from a fatback to a cutback. Hopefully that will get rid of the "rough-hewn" carpentry).
He'll re-flock the underside too. He is very reasonable. I think I paid about $300.

3] Buy a set of new legs from Don Burrows ($150+/-), new decals, badge and fretboards

4] re-assemble and set-up......VOILA a beautiful, cherry P/P, for about $600 plus some sweat.


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Dave Magram

 

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San Jose, California, USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 3:40 pm    
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Hi David,

IMHO, tone and functionality trump cosmetics.
Have you ever seen Willy Nelson's guitar with the big hole in the spruce top, or Ralph Mooney's old Fender steel that they each played a gazillion hits on?

If it was me, I'd set it up and plug it into an amp.
- Does it sound good, like an Emmons p/p should?
- Do the pedals, knee levers, and changers function properly?

If the answer is "yes", then who cares what it looks like!
Or you can have one of the restoration experts fix it up. Smile

- Dave

It looks like Tony G. answered quicker!
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Mike Neer


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NJ
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 3:55 pm    
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Damn, that's cold! Who knows, that might turn out to be a beauty with a little--make that a lot of love.
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David Higginbotham

 

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Lake Charles, Louisiana, USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 3:57 pm    
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David, was that guitar from Merryville, La.? He had the guitar listed on another local site and I emailed him a couple of times wanting to go look at it. It's only about 45 minutes away from me, but he never returned my emails.

Needless to say he didn't want anyone to see the guitar in person and had I been able to see it in person, I would have cautioned others. I know the price he was asking and certainly don't think you got your moneys worth!
Dave
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David Kellogg

 

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Tualatin, OR
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 4:10 pm     Warping
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Probably is David. Tony, I forgot to mention the warping, the back apron is so warped that if I threw it real hard it would come back. Oh, also did I mention the what looks like dryrot? Right next to the changer.
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David Kellogg

 

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Tualatin, OR
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 4:15 pm     Ahh
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Well Cindy just got home and she's making me a drink. No matter what happens in life there is nothing better than a great woman and she's the greatist. Cheers
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Randy Gilliam

 

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San Antonio, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 4:30 pm     Forgot About The Flood!
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David He Forgot To Tell You It Washed Up In His Yard after The Flood!, I Still Like It Its a Emmons, How Much You Want For It? Thanks Randy Gilliam. Razz
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Glenn Austin

 

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Montreal, Canada
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 4:44 pm    
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Hi David, I nearly bought this guitar, but it was already spoken for. Geez.

but I still think it was a good deal.
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David Kellogg

 

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Tualatin, OR
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 5:07 pm     cost
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I know your all curious, I paid $1500, any offers?
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Bobby Burns

 

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Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 5:14 pm    
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You already have the before pictures. I'm looking forward to the after pics! I bet it will be a great project. I would have bought it, just because I felt sorry for it, and it apparently needed a good home. If you don't feel up to it, sell it to one of us, and let us fix it!
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John Bechtel


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Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 5:32 pm    
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I'd say, generally it's in about the same shape that I'm in. Almost everything functions properly (“almost”) and all it really needs is a new body! Don't give up on it yet! (Please!)
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Russ Tkac


Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 5:39 pm    
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Remember these pictures?







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It is fixable. Very Happy







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Chris LeDrew


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Canada
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 6:26 pm    
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David, how did you pay? If you used Paypal, you may be able to get a refund. Or stop payment on your cheque (probably too late). I wouldn't lie down and take this so easily.
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Dan Burnham


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Greenfield, Tennessee
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 6:52 pm     Omg
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David,
WOW, but, don't loose hope, it is fixable. Like the others have said, this can be brought back from the dead. Bobby Bowman is who I would recommend. Sorry for the trasaction, I've been there too.

Dan
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bob Ousby

 

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Nevada, USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 6:59 pm    
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Is this the one Paolo is talking about on another thread?
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Bryan Knox


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Gardendale, Alabama...Ya'll come
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 7:33 pm    
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How in the world someone can let a fine musical instrument get in that kind of condition is absolutely foreign to me. If that thing could talk...

Oh Well
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Tony Glassman


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The Great Northwest
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 8:13 pm    
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If the cabinet is trashed, buy a new one. Emmons sells new D-10 bodies w/o endplates for $615.00 (see bottom of page).

http://www.emmonsguitar.net/replacementparts6.htm

add some legs decals,and fretboards: whole project w/ you doing the polishing and set up = approx $800,

Total investment: $1500 + $800.

So, you'd have a fully restored push-pull for about $2300.00, plus you'll get an amazing steel guitar mechanical education.
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Jerry Roller


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Van Buren, Arkansas USA
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 9:38 pm    
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David, I will give $1500.00 for this guitar. Please let me know.
Jerry
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Doug Jones


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Oregon & Florida
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 9:42 pm    
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Give Lynn Stafford a call. This might be the ultimate challenge for him and he lives up in our neck of the woods.

Best of luck, - DJ -
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Norbert Dengler


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germany
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 11:04 pm    
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i`m sorry for your bad luck david, but if that helps:
the title of your topic "push pull from hell" makes me laugh all day long!
you`ve got good humor and a cool wife!
regards from germany Very Happy
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richard burton


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Britain
Post  Posted 30 Apr 2010 11:15 pm    
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Never judge a book by its cover.

Assemble the steel (it will still go together, even if the legs are rusty) and plug it in.

Assuming that the pickups work, it shouldn't take many minutes tweaking (or probably no tweaking at all, as push-pull changers are rock solid when set) and you will be getting a tune out of her Very Happy
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