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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 12:57 pm    
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Well, I wasted most of the day today fooling around and writing and recording this. I was recently selling my Boss BR-8, changed my mind and decided to pull it out today. When I played through it, I had a sound that reminded a little of Holdsworth, so then the fun began. The tune (if you can call it that) came together pretty quickly; however, recording with the BR-8 is another story for me.

Anyway, here it is, called Jeff's Waltz. I realize it's not for everyone, and I'm not even sure it's for me, but nevertheless, I did it and rather than let it go completely to waste, I figured I'd share it.

Played on my walnut Clinesmith through the BR-8, also with a Kay acoustic bass. As you can hear from the lack of cohesiveness of the rhythm parts, I had no idea where I was going with this.
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Steve Cunningham


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 1:20 pm    
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Mike - I didn't know you were so WRONG! Very cool, man. You definitely captured that Beckish, introspective, '70s fusion vibe.
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John Billings


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 1:43 pm    
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Great! Loved it!
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 2:00 pm    
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Thanks, guys. Yeah, Steve, I am so wrong you have no idea. Laughing

I like the way the steel guitar track with the chorus sounds (the rhythm part), not so much the lead part's sound. Didn't quite sound as good as it did through headphones. Anyway, as you can hear, the Clinesmith is quite versatile.
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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 2:12 pm    
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Mike Neer wrote:
Anyway, as you can hear, the Clinesmith is quite versatile.



As is it's player....
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Bill Creller

 

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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 3:06 pm    
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Cool! Jeff Beck is one of my favorite people, along with that girl who plays bass like a lead instrument.
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Steinar Gregertsen


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 4:18 pm    
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Ha! Loved it!! Very Happy
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Richard Sevigny


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 4:31 pm    
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Very nice. The guitar gods have blessed you. Mr. Green

I definitely hear Dr Allan and Dr Jeff in there. Cool
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Paul Bostic


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 5:24 pm    
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Very Cool Mike! I would love to see you and Jeff play together. I have been a Beck fan since the early 70's, you did him proud!
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Laurence Pangaro


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 5:32 pm    
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Very cool sounds, Mike!

Jeff Beck is my all time favorite.

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Doug Beaumier


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 5:36 pm    
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Sounds good, Mike!
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Guy Cundell


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 6:37 pm    
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So nice that I listened thrice.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 19 Apr 2010 8:09 pm    
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I'd call this a pretty useless tune, except as long as I'm playing my instrument it's not a complete waste. Second, it gave me a chance to explore consonance and dissonance within the C6 tuning. All I did was tweak 2 strings and manage my grips carefully and I ended up with a very nice dissonance (Maj7#5), even though I didn't really exploit it with my soloing, which I regrettably didn't spend enough time thinking about, but it's time to move on.

Anyway, thanks for listening to my crapola--I literally have tapes full of this stuff. William Faulkner said (and I paraphrase), "If you want to grow a good garden, you'll need lots of fertilizer."
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David Mason


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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2010 5:08 am    
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When you said "McLaughlin" I started waiting for the really fast part Mr. Green Actually I heard John's chord right exactly at the halfway point (?)

Excellent, excellent.

I like the idea of spontaneous composition, it's a worthy goal to sit down every day and play something you've never played before. I suspect that the "compositions" get better, over a few decades or so. Neutral I'm definitely angling for reincarnation, cause I got so damn much more to learn... Laughing
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Bill Hatcher

 

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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2010 7:13 am    
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Very nice!
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Mark Daniels


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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2010 2:52 pm    
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Very cool.

You can certainly hear the Beck & McLaughlin influence in there.
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Bill McCloskey

 

Post  Posted 20 Apr 2010 6:26 pm    
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Mike,

I found this to be great. and a great direction for you actually. You should explore this more!! I think you are on to some thing here that cries out to be examined more fully.
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 20 Apr 2010 8:25 pm    
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Thanks for listening everyone. I appreciate your comments, and I didn't expect much feedback, to be honest, because well, it is what it is.

I'm no stranger to this music--I played it for many years on the guitar and Holdsworth is one of my favorites. I found something cool in the tuning I was playing around with and that, combined with that chorused sound just sort of took over.

I thought some of you might be interested in hearing the initial rhythm track with just a bass overdub. The steel track was recorded pretty much as it was being written, with no click or anything, so you can imagine what a pain it was to play along with. There are some really nice, subtle dissonant chords in there that you can easily miss in the other mix. Check this one out, you might like it:

www.mikeneer.com/jeffsrhythm.mp3
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 21 Apr 2010 9:18 am    
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I've been toying with the idea of releasing a CD of Jazz cover tunes by my favorite guitarists, like Scofield, Pat Metheny, etc., played on steel, but I remember my friend, Matt Smith, urging me to write and record my own material, if possible. Between getting my next DVD ready and selling the house/moving and composing, I should be pretty much locked down for the rest of the year!

The good thing is, I play with some of the best players in the NYC area, so getting a project together once I've done my work will be a snap.
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John Billings


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Post  Posted 21 Apr 2010 9:21 am    
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Gettin' out of Joisey, eh Mike?
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 21 Apr 2010 9:32 am    
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Nope. Wouldn't be a bad idea, though.
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Tom Pettingill


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Post  Posted 21 Apr 2010 10:22 am    
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Very cool Mike, I enjoyed it a lot Smile
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Bill Leff


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Post  Posted 21 Apr 2010 8:59 pm    
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Very cool Mike!

BTW, for you Beck fans, you MUST check out his "Live at Ronnie Scott's" DVD. He's playing better than ever. It's a jaw dropper and very well produced.
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Mark Mansueto


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Post  Posted 27 Apr 2010 6:08 pm    
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Mike Neer wrote:
I've been toying with the idea of releasing a CD of Jazz cover tunes by my favorite guitarists, like Scofield, Pat Metheny, etc., played on steel, but I remember my friend, Matt Smith, urging me to write and record my own material, if possible. Between getting my next DVD ready and selling the house/moving and composing, I should be pretty much locked down for the rest of the year!

The good thing is, I play with some of the best players in the NYC area, so getting a project together once I've done my work will be a snap.


Mike, I finally got a chance to hear this and I'm so glad that you shared it with us. I'm a huge fan of the fusion guitar style and the three players you modeled this after are among my all time fav's. Definitely has some flavor from all three. If I were to guess it would be Jeff playing a McLaughlin song whilst thinking about Allen H. Very cool. I have never heard a lap steel played in this exact style before and I love it so kudos for that and the acompaniment as well. I thought both versions were equally great even though they weren't as polished as you would have liked. The feel still came through.
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Michael Elzey

 

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Post  Posted 29 Apr 2010 9:48 am    
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Played very well man!
You just proved to me that steel guitar can be used in any style of music. jazz has always been piano, sax and guitar for the most part. Steel jazz is kool!
thanks man.

Michael
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