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Topic: Ralph Mooney pedal question |
Keith Hilton
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248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 9:18 pm |
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Ralph Mooney has a pedal that lowers his 3rd string B to a Bflat. I have a couple of questions about this change: How does Ralph use this change when used alone, and against what chord? What other pedals and knee levers does Ralph use with this B to Bflat change?
The first four strings on Ralph Mooney's guitar are tuned (1)G#,(2)E,(3)B,(4)G#.
If you use only the B to Bflat pedal, and lower the B to Bflat, you have the following notes: G#,E,Bflat,G#. Ralph once told me he was a nasty player, not a pretty player. By this he meant he played chords with a lot of tension, like high pitched rolling 7th chords. He used these rolling 7th chords almost like a blues player at times. What chord can the notes G#,E,Bflat,G# be used against to create tesion like a 7th chord? |
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Jeremiah Wade
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Bladenboro, NC
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 10:00 pm
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E G# Bb D yields E7b5 without the D (b7). Not all that practical without the b7, okay if the band covers that note. Mooney uses a alot of blue notes. i.e. b3, b5, and b7's. The B to Bb change (LKV on my guitar) the 3 to b3(Split) in the pedals down position yielding cm7 at the 3rd fret. At the root position it provides the C7b5. The b3 wants to resolve to 3 and the b5 resolves to 5 or 4.
I think Mooney used this change for getting notes from the true blues scale, which can sound nasty.
The 5th and 9th can be ALTERED (raised or lowered) and give a different flavor of dominant, major, or minor chord.
C7#9 C7b9b5 C7#11 C7 C9 C13 etc.
All of the alterations just add color and the basic chord is still dominant 7th. I hope this helps a little. Cheers, JWW
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Jim Robbins
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted 6 Apr 2010 5:42 am
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Keith, what do you (or what did Ralph Mooney) mean by "rolling" 7th chords?
By the way, G#,E,Bflat,G# can be part of an F# 9 (Bflat = A sharp, which is the 3rd, E is the 7th & G# is the 9th) or part of a C7 aug (E is the 3rd, G# is the aug 5 or flat 13, Bb is the 7th). There are other possibilities, those are the tamest. |
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Keith Hilton
From:
248 Laurel Road Ozark, Missouri 65721
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Posted 6 Apr 2010 7:44 am
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| Sorry about that Jim. By rolling 7th, I mean a 7th sounding "TRIAD" with each string picked individually one after the other in a quick fashion. |
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Robbie Daniels
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Casper, Wyoming, USA
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Posted 6 Apr 2010 2:13 pm
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I lower both my B 's. Not only get a flatted fifth, but say like D on the 10th fret the lowered 5th string will yield a nice D9 on the eighth fret to progress to G or the like on sixth fret.
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Jim Robbins
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted 8 Apr 2010 6:38 am
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| Thanks, Keith. |
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