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Topic: What would you do with this Sho Bud? |
Dennis Brown
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Gowen, Mi. USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 10:20 am |
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This belongs to a friend that offered it to me to play as I wait for a new Desert Rose thats ordered He said it'll need strings. What would you do?
Thanks, Dennis
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Andy Sandoval
From:
Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 10:28 am
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I'd string er up to see what she sounds like. What do you have to lose?  |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 10:31 am
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| I can't see any bar dings on it, so that tells me that it hasn't been seriously mistreated. |
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Brian Powell
From:
sparta tenn
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 10:36 am old
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 id duster off put some strings on her and go at it 
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Jay Jessup
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Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 10:41 am
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Wow, looks like it's been in a flood or a very humid environment. My guess is with many, many hours of work you would still be lucky to get it to play in tune.
It looks to be an early Pro III that someone has cut down the pedals and removed the coil tap switches and changed fretboards on and I can see some missing pieces also. I had an early round front ProIII and even it had the dustcatcher fret boards. Actually, measure the scale length if it's not 24" it would have been custom made for somebody. The wood looks nice, someone should send it to James Moorehead for a total redo.
Sho-Bud experts, did they all have the hold down screws through the top of the keyhead near the roller nuts? |
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Henry Matthews
From:
Texarkana, Ark USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 11:25 am
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I believe I'd just give it to me and go get another, LOL. Seriouly, that can be fixed up to look like new one with a little hard work.
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 11:33 am
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i disagree with jay...maybe he doesn't have that much experience or is a spoiled rich person...either way...put strings on that sho-bud and play it. ten minutes worth of work. people that would rather have someone 'restore' their steel (for big money)than play it is a major illness on this forum!
flame away..i know i'm right!
there is no reason it wouldn't 'play in tune'. |
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Dennis Brown
From:
Gowen, Mi. USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 11:39 am Sho Bud
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| Thanks for the info and your Ideas. the number on it is 3043. It's "The Professional" Any idea of the year? Thanks again. Dennis |
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Jay Jessup
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Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 11:42 am
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| chris ivey wrote: |
there is no reason it wouldn't 'play in tune'.
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LOL well I have been wrong before but I'd be willing to bet the changer is frozen with rust and corrosion. It's dry out there on the left coast Chris and ya'll may not have too much experience with the effects that excessive moisture can have on metals?? |
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Bill Miller
From:
Gaspe, Quebec, Canada
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 11:46 am
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| It's in seriously rough shape, but it certainly can be rejuvenated and turned into a real beauty by the right hands. It looks to me like it's been stored in an a damp, unfinished basement for a long time. The pickups might have to be rewound or replaced. I bought an old Sho~Bud once that was nearly as rough and not having any particular talent for the job I refinished it to look pretty darn good. Imagine what Ricky Davis could do with that. |
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David Nugent
From:
Gum Spring, Va.
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 11:48 am Sho-Bud
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| I am in Jay's corner, the guitar was obviously in a most unfriendly environment for an extended period of time. The oxidation has most likely spread to the changers as well, so I would guess that a thorough disassembly, cleaning, and lubrication is in order to enable the guitar to play correctly. |
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Dennis Brown
From:
Gowen, Mi. USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 11:52 am Sho Bud
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| I am thinking of Ricky Davis. That would be super cool Bill. I wonder what kind of investment that would actually be? For the most part, it's just gummy, rusty, dang ugly and real dang ugly. And, a tear drop lever is missing. No big deal. |
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chris ivey
From:
california (deceased)
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 12:05 pm
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ok jay...good comeback. i guess i'm the one with the problem. after all, out here in california we all just smoke dope, party with hugh hefner's bunnies, live in euphoria and have heavenly weather. we always wonder why those people in foreign countries with problems of starvation and such don't just buy new harleys and ride to a nicer place.
however...i still feel you don't need to spend ridiculously unnecessary money on a steel to get a good musical tool! |
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Dennis Brown
From:
Gowen, Mi. USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 12:25 pm Sho Bud
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| I've had several people wanting to buy this guitar. Please, It's not for sale or, Henry you can't have it either. The Easter Bunny brought it to me yesterday and I am just looking to show it to my fellow formunites. Looking for opinions for the most part. I'm excited about it. thanks again, Dennis. |
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richard burton
From:
Britain
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 12:34 pm
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Chris is right, you don't need to have super-duper restorations, with everything shining to the n'th degree, to make this a playable instrument.
Just free the changer off, and slap some strings on it.
I've got steels (which their owners brought to me as basket cases) playable in ten minutes |
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Brint Hannay
From:
Maryland, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 12:57 pm
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| I'd invest in a couple of replacement fretboards, though. I think I'd find the current ones a little distracting. |
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Dennis Brown
From:
Gowen, Mi. USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 1:05 pm Fret boards
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Brint, I know what ya mean, It would be like going to bed with a two and wake-n- up with a two.  And thats not right. Dennis
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Bill Davis (deceased)
From:
Huntsville, AL * R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 2:24 pm Sho Bud
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| This is called a Bud before the Sho. Looks like someone has tried to play it without any strings. I think it`s an old vintage AIR steel guitar. They didn`t put strings on those as i remember. The strings came later. Just my opinion. |
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Dennis Brown
From:
Gowen, Mi. USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 2:29 pm
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 2:42 pm Wow --Under the Bed Special
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Alcatraz
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John Billings
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 2:45 pm
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| I like the three barrels on the one pull rod! Look at all the mods underneath that puppy! Screwholes everywhere. I'd make sure the pickups work before doing anything else. If you do all the changer work, string it up, and the pups don't work, you've wasted time and money. If it were mine, and the pups worked, or, being me, even if they didn't, I'd restore the whole thing to look like new! I'm sick that way! |
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Dave Simonis
From:
Stevens Point, WI USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 3:01 pm
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Jay/Chris...
I'll go in between your thoughts and say convert this to an SD10 with a pad on the rear neck. Between the rusted/frozen and good parts...maybe Dennis can wind up with an old Bud to sit along his Desert Rose?
Though you know Jay it'll still come in second to your ShoBud SD10!
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 3:06 pm
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Dave
No, I would say restore it if the wood is pretty. But don't spend a lot because you would be better off buying one already restored.
If the wood is bland looking, just make the guitar work, which probably means take it apart and put it back together again cleaning up parts as you go.
I would not make a loafer.
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Dennis Brown
From:
Gowen, Mi. USA
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 3:17 pm Sho stopper
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Chris, I'm thinking the same way and I've already started taking it apart. Has anybody tried a vinyl wrap for a body mod like they'er doing on cars and trucks. I got a friend that does that for a living.
It's not going to hurt anything and it could be changed from time to time. What do ya think? (alcatraz? )
Dennis |
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Jason Hull
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Posted 5 Apr 2010 4:24 pm
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I think the best thing to do would be to give it to me!  |
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