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Topic: Lloyd Green playing a Bigsby |
Bob Hoffnar
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Austin, Tx
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Posted 12 Feb 2010 11:38 pm |
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I bumped into this on Youtube:
Link to video on YouTube.
What a great sound !
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Ray Montee
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Posted 13 Feb 2010 11:07 am A great cut!
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Notice his Joaquin Murphy runs..... with a slight touch in a couple of places that sound a great deal like JERRY BYRD.
This was BEFORE Lloyd Green became the LLOYD GREEN we've all grown to recognize and love!
THANKS for sharing with us.......... |
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Ryan Barwin
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 13 Feb 2010 11:13 am
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That's incredibly cool...thanks for sharing.
What tuning is he using there?
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 13 Feb 2010 3:20 pm WHAT TUNING you ask?
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My best guestimate would be C6th.......
Sounds like Joaquin's favorite lead-in and then you can see him several times doing that little three string forward slant..........
C6th gets my vote. |
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Mike Bagwell
From:
Greenville, SC, USA
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 5:48 pm
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Bob,
Thanks for posting this.
Ray,
I find it interesting that Lloyd is playing so far away from the bridge. Any Comments ?
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Ray Montee
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Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 14 Feb 2010 6:42 pm WHY? Was Lloyd picking so far from the bridge?
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It's just my personal opinion and any number of Forumites take issue with what I have to say but here goes:
Where his picking hand is situated on the BIGSBY, is what I refer to as the SWEET SPOT......for a Bigsby.
You just can't get a warm, full-bodied sound from any steel if your picking right on top of the pickup.
Lot's of guys are doing it, as evidenced on YOU Tube these days.
Most of them sound exactly the same and lacking in
any musical warmth. Ad to that a treble setting on the amp and guitar and you've got yourself, all too often, electrified 'noise'. |
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Mike Bagwell
From:
Greenville, SC, USA
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Posted 15 Feb 2010 5:53 am
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Ray,
I have a Clinesmith console that I've been playing for about 6 months. It never occurred to me to pick that far from the pick-up. I tried it last night and presto!!!, there is the tone I've been looking for.
Thank you very much, sometime the its the small things that make the biggest difference.
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Ray Montee
From:
Portland, Oregon (deceased)
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Posted 15 Feb 2010 8:22 am Great News!
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Mike that was great to learn of your new discovery!
Those of us that learned 'the original way'.....on a round hole, flat top Spanish guitar with the raised nut, were taught to pick just slightly off-center or to the right of the ROUND HOLE for best tone.
When I sit down to play, I visualize what I learned and have always been satisfied with my sound.
Again, I'm happy for you. |
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Mark Roeder
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Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Jon Nygren
From:
Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 21 Feb 2010 5:47 pm
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Lloyd was Faron's steel player for a time. I believe it was one Lloyds first jobs upon arriving in Nashville.
The Bigsby is also Farons. The story goes that Lloyd brought a stringmaster with him on the first gig/audition. Afterwards, Faron told him that you "can't play that piece of junk with the great Faron Young"- you need to use the bigsby!
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Mark Roeder
From:
Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA
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Posted 22 Feb 2010 7:29 am
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Thanks Jon
It's great when someone can add some history to these clips and instruments. I wonder who has that Bigsby?
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Jerome Hawkes
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Fayetteville, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 22 Feb 2010 7:49 am
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i think thats the one Bobbe Seymour has (for sale..$$$$)
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Jussi Huhtakangas
From:
Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 23 Feb 2010 12:10 am
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No, it's not. Faron sold that guitar to Gary Stewart after Lloyd left Faron. Gary sent it over to Bigsby to have his name inlaid and the pedal set up. He played it at least way up until the 70's, might still have it but I'm not sure.
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 24 Feb 2010 10:14 am
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| Sorry for the off-topic question, but what kind of guitar is Faron playing? The pickguard has the same odd shape as the headstock. |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 24 Feb 2010 11:24 am
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Lee
Gay guitar.
Carl Smith and others had them as well. I have seen a photo of George Jones with one, but it may have been borrowed.
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HowardR
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N.Y.C.-Fire Island-Asheville
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Posted 24 Feb 2010 4:57 pm
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Gay guitar.
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It does look it....... |
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Chris Lucker
From:
Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 25 Feb 2010 2:46 am Here is Carl Smith with Gay
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Not to hijack, but here is another Gay guitar.
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Ray Shakeshaft
From:
Kidderminster, Worcs, UK.
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Posted 25 Feb 2010 3:00 pm
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That is just about the ugliest looking guitar I have ever seen. There should be a law against them.  |
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Alan Brookes
From:
Brummy living in Southern California
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Posted 26 Feb 2010 5:43 pm
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That is just about the ugliest looking guitar I have ever seen. There should be a law against them. |
I tend to agree. Frank Gay was a great luthier and built a lot of attractive instruments. I don't know whether he designed the one that Faron and others made famous. I imagine the players had a lot of input into the gaudy ornamentation and the awful rectangular body and triangular headstock.
http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/index.cfm?PgNm=TCE&Params=U1ARTU0001332
In his defence, most of his other instruments looked better.  |
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John Clark
From:
Arkansas, USA
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Posted 27 Feb 2010 4:06 pm
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| DOES ANYONE KNOW WHO THE FIDDLE PLAYER WAS IN THAT FARON YOUNG SONG? |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Spicewood TX 78669
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Posted 28 Feb 2010 8:37 pm
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Shorty Lavender is the fiddler, Pete Wade the guitarist.
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George Keoki Lake
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Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 28 Feb 2010 10:45 pm
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I knew and performed with FRANK GAY for a number of years here in Edmonton...He was well liked by everyone around these parts. Frank built his guitars in a small converted garage where he often slept.
A guitar like Faron's involved 4 months of steady work to construct, (lots of inlay work)...he also made similar custom guitars for Hank Snow, Johnny Cash, Webb Pierce, Johnny Horton to name but a few. Also, Frank built a custom designed nylon string classical guitar for the famous Carlos Montoya. Frank was internationally known. His guitars may appear to be ugly to some eyes, however they had a huge sound and were very well constructed.
He also custom designed and made a beautiful solid body electric triple neck mandolin/guitar/bass for a local musician who has since passed...never did find out whatever became of it. This instrument weighed a ton...I still have a picture of it in my photo album.
Frank, a Master Luthier, played excellent classical, flamenco and jazz guitar as well as western swing fiddle. He had his own radio program often featuring a jazz harmonica group similar to the well known "Harmonicats".
Those guitars he made were of his own design. I think you can find a few of them on display in the Nashville Hall of Fame.
Frank died here in Edmonton at the age of 62 of a massive heart attack on May 27th 1982. |
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Jussi Huhtakangas
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Helsinki, Finland
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Posted 28 Feb 2010 11:34 pm
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George, if there's any way you could post a picture ( or email it ) of that triple neck, please do! I'd love to see that!  |
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George Keoki Lake
From:
Edmonton, AB., Canada
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Posted 1 Mar 2010 1:07 am
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Ben Rubright
From:
Punta Gorda, Florida, USA
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Posted 3 Mar 2010 8:44 pm
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Hey Herbster:
I recognize Pete Wade and Shorty Lavender.....I know that Pete is still around....how about Shorty? I love all of these old videos.....I still think that you and Bobbe should write a book or six. I will be first in line to buy them......I will bug you in Dallas in a few days......best regards. |
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