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Pit Lenz


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Cologne, Germany
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2010 7:49 am    
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Hello fellow forumites,
I play a Carter U-12, using Carter`s standard copedent.
here´s the chart

It has a half stop on LKL (which lowers my 2ndString Eb >D and raises my 9th string B>D).
I understand that the half stop on E9th tunings usually divides the full step lowering process of string 2 into two half steps.
Since my second string is lowered only a half step anyway, how should I set the half stop?
Change lowering 2nd to a full step?
Somewhere to interrupt the 9th string lowering?
Or do you use it with a different pull?
Thanks for sharing your ideas and experience...

pit
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Sherman Willden


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Colorado Springs, Colorado, USA
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2010 8:43 am    
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Pit;

When I ordered my Carter I discussed half-stops with John and he recommended not using them on the s12. I had two I think on my D10 Mullen but that was years ago now. I asked the following questions earlier:

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=143158&highlight=

http://bb.steelguitarforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=132410&highlight=
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 28 Feb 2010 9:01 am    
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If you are only dropping the 2nd string a semitone, a half stop is unnecessary on that string.

I notice that you are raising your 9th from B up to D, so maybe you could use it there, perhaps when the note gets to C#
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Pit Lenz


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Cologne, Germany
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2010 5:39 pm    
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Sherman and Jon, thanks for your opinions and links, some good ideas to think about.
I just wonder why Carter mounted an extra /(13th) changer finger and the open space in the endplate, if John recommends to leave it empty...
Richard, you´re right, I set it to stop at C for a try, but might as well take it off completely.


pit
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Bill Moore


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Manchester, Michigan
Post  Posted 28 Feb 2010 6:13 pm    
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The chart shows the 1/2 step lower on one lever, the whole step lower on another lever. So you have both notes without using a half stop, maybe you can use add the half-stop to the 1st string? To get both G and G#?
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