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Topic: Poll: S-10, SD-10, D-10, S-12 (uni or Ext E9), D-12, other? |
Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Marc Jenkins
From: Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
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Posted 19 Feb 2010 7:54 pm
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That's no poll. |
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Charles Davidson
From: Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2010 8:03 pm
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For years a 74 MSA-D-10 Classic, Now a 76 MSA-S-10 Classic. The reason the weight difference, The D-10 was whupping my old butt moving it several times a week.Still miss that 6th neck though. I started years ago on a ZUM 12 string uni.I have two tunes on Mr. Tillys site, The country tune is on the uni,the other tune,THOMAS KATT was on the C6th on the MSA. YOU BETCHA, DYK?BC. _________________ Hard headed, opinionated old geezer. BAMA CHARLIE. GOD BLESS AMERICA. ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST. SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC !
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Rick Abbott
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2010 8:13 pm
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Music?...........D-10 E-9 with 5 and 2, G6 non pedal _________________ RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer
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Bill Dobkins
From: Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2010 8:13 pm
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Well Mike I have a SD10 but I wouldn't say I play it.
BD _________________ Custom Rittenberry SD10
Boss Katana 100 Amp
Positive Grid Spark amp
BJS Bars
Z~Legend Pro,Custom Tele
Honor our Vet's.
Now pass the gravy. |
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Barry Hyman
From: upstate New York, USA
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Posted 19 Feb 2010 9:09 pm
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Mike -- Marc is right -- you forgot the poll! But no matter -- just teasing you...
I have played S-12 Extended E9th for 36 years (after two frustrating years with a D-10). I love 12 strings, and I love Extended E9th. With my new Williams (700 Series 5+5) I can play more than two octaves of chromatic scales with no bar -- just the pedals and knees. Plus I can get every chord I ever would want to use, most with more voicings than I can remember.
I have studied universal copedants, but have not figured out enough advantages for me personally to want to switch. Ext E9th has all the chords and scales I need for country, blues, bluegrass, folk, rock, R&B, singer-songwriter backup, reggae, ragas, Afropop, Latin, Celtic, and all the other weird experimental and worldbeat stuff I like to play.
And I never understood SD-10 or SD-12 either -- I get so happy playing pedal steel nowadays, I don't need anything to rest on -- the energy comes from the music (still all charged up from a wonderful gig tonight) and I sure as hell don't need an armrest.
By the way, Mike, I read all your posts and greatly admire what you do. Several of my old friends are classical musicians since childhood, and, while I don't go there with them, I definitely respect the work they put in. And, partly inspired by you, I did a psg show-and-tell for the audience tonight, although I do NOT invite anybody to sit down at my baby -- they are allowed to look and to ooh and aah, but that's all... _________________ I give music lessons on several different instruments in Cambridge, NY (between Bennington, VT and Albany, NY). But my true love is pedal steel. I've been obsessed with steel since 1972; don't know anything I'd rather talk about... www.barryhyman.com |
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Ryan Barwin
From: Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 19 Feb 2010 10:02 pm
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I play a D-10...pretty standard E9th and C6th. _________________ www.pedalsteel.ca |
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Mike Perlowin
From: Los Angeles CA
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Posted 19 Feb 2010 10:08 pm
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I tried to make a poll, but couldn't get it to work.
I play a U-12, but I know almost nothing about the B6. For me the major advantage of the U-12 is the extra bass. I have a Low B string that I pull down to A on the A pedal. I also drop the 11th string to C# on both the E to F knee lever and also on the knee lever that raises my 2nd string (which I tune to C#) up to D#.
I find these bass notes invaluable. My part on my track (with my classical music trio) on Charles Tilly's site is played almost entirely in that register. So Much so that one person told me he thought my part was played on a bass and didn't realize it was a steel.
My arrangement of that tune can not be played on any guitar that doesn't have a universal tuning and is not set up like mine. _________________ Please visit my web site and Soundcloud page and listen to the music posted there.
http://www.mikeperlowin.com http://soundcloud.com/mike-perlowin |
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Clete Ritta
From: San Antonio, Texas
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 12:13 am
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I play my Mullen SD10 (3X5 E9) live.
I like the comfort of the armrest, and the well for keepin picks and tonebar.
At home I love to play that U12 Fessenden (8X5 E9/B6 now),
that I bought from you a few months ago.
Clete |
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Rick Winfield
From: Pickin' beneath the Palmettos
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 1:49 am
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I have a D12, and an SD10.
Most of my time lately, is on the C6 neck.
I thought about "uni", but there's just sooo much available with what I have, and what I have yet to learn !
Rick |
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Bob Carlucci
From: Candor, New York, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 2:58 am
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Strictly S-10... Tried to bond with an SD-10, and found the extra bulk a waste of time.
No tonal advantages at all. If you don't need the C6, why bother with the added weight and cost?.. Never could figure the love for SD-10 steels. bob _________________ I'm over the hill and hittin'rocks on the way down!
no gear list for me.. you don't have the time...... |
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Jack Stoner
From: Kansas City, MO
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 3:03 am
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I've had a D-10 ever since I got my first pedal steel, a Fender 2000, in 1969. |
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Jerry Hayes
From: Virginia Beach, Va.
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 3:10 am
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I play an S-12 BMI with 8 FP & 5 KL....JH in Va. _________________ Don't matter who's in Austin (or anywhere else) Ralph Mooney is still the king!!! |
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Robert Brown
From: West Mifflin Pa.
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 5:39 am
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Mike,I am a newbie, but a D10 black Zum is the one for me. _________________ Zum D10 8x6 w/Alumitone's,Fender D8,Regal Dobro,Fender twin reverb, Peavey nashville 112,Hilton pedal,Peterson Strobo-flip,BJS&Zirc Bars,George L's cables |
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Rick Abbott
From: Indiana, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 5:46 am
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Mike P.
You should track down the E9B6 material from Jeffran. It makes the B6 very plain to understand, it was a rental tape at one time. Any C6 material will help as long as you know the functions of your pedals, and what they are asking of you in the lesson. Once the B6 starts to make good sense, the whole thing is best thought of as one big tuning...you can find many more chord voicings and ways to and from places. This is one "pro" in not having a locking e-lower. Of course the "con" is a wore out thigh if you stay in B6 for a half an hour at a time _________________ RICK ABBOTT
Sho~Bud D-10 Professional #7962
Remington T-8, Sehy #112
1975 Peavey Pacer |
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Alan Harrison
From: Murfreesboro Tennessee, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 6:15 am "D-10"
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A lifetime of D-10, 41 years. Hopefully have a couple of years left to continue learning beautiful instrument.
I might have to hire someone younger to tote it around for me as my back pain gets worse as my 74th birthday is just around the corner. _________________ Mullen (Black) Pre G-2 9x7, B.L. 705 PUP's, Evans SE 200 Telonics NEO 15-4, BJS Bar, Peterson Strobo Flip, Steelers Choice Seat, Folgers Coffee and Hilton Pedals.
"I Steel Without Remorse" |
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David Mason
From: Cambridge, MD, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 6:41 am
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S-10, C6th 5+5. as Bob C. says,
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If you don't need the E9th, why bother with the added weight and cost? |
Oh wait - that's not what he said. It's basically a monster, six-tuning slide guitar to me, I change chords all the time but I don't do many pedal wee-wee's. I like the way bar movement sounds; it seems like a lot of pedal guys work up some technical exercises in playing stuff without moving the bar, then they go play 'em all night on the gig. |
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Paul Wade
From: mundelein,ill
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Tony Dingus
From: Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 8:46 am
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Nashville LTD Doug Jernigan model D10. Sweet guitar.
Tony |
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Don McGregor
From: Memphis, Tennessee
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 8:58 am
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Double 10 Robbins.
Badly, so far,
but with much enthusiasm. |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Allan Jirik
From: Wichita Falls TX
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 2:24 pm
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Single neck, 3&4. I played a double Sho-Bud for 10 years and frankly that was too much steel for my limited talent. I've got a C6th lap steel I mess around with now and then. |
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Steve Broatch
From: Newcastle, England
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 3:42 pm
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Sounds familiar Allan.
I play a D-10 but the C6 neck I play without pedals mostly. |
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Skip Ellis
From: Bradenton, Fl USA
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Posted 20 Feb 2010 5:07 pm
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I play an SD-10 Fessenden but sometimes miss C6th. Maybe another D-10 in my future? _________________ 2013 Brook Torridge, 2014 Martin 000-18, two homebrew Teles, Evans RE200 amp, Quilter 101R head, understanding wife of 45 years. 'Steeless' at the moment but looking...... |
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Hook Moore
From: South Charleston,West Virginia
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