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Topic: Country music - "Rock Out" |
Rick Campbell
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Posted 6 Feb 2010 8:57 pm |
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Someone mentioned other day about some country players and singers being able to "rock out". I don't understand that. Seems like that would refer to a dump truck spreading a load of gravel or something. The mountain slid off into the road on I-40 between Knoxville and Asheville. Maybe that's a rock out?
When it snows really hard they call that a white out. There's also a correction fluid office product called white out.
When the power goes off they call that a black out. Or, if someone faints, they call that a black out. Also called passed out. If a boxer does it, it's called a knock out. Either way you're out.
In baseball if you don't get on base you are out. If the you don't score it's a shut out. The place the players stay is called the dug out. If you miss the ball three times you strike out. If you get too many fouls, you foul out. Spark plugs can also get dirty and foul out.
You go to a gym to work out.
When you're sick of your job you are burned out. Also when a house burns it's called burned out. If the house is on fire you should get out.
If you're afraid to do something you have chickened out.
If you're having a hard time, you are down and out.
If you are dressed a lot different than others they say you stand out.
If you have a lot of anxiety you are stressed out.
If you car engine gets wet it will drown out, also called conked out.
If you lose your keys, you get locked out.
If you get crazy you are freaked out.
When workers go on strike that call it a walk out.
When a car engine misses they says it's cutting out.
When the time expires on something they say it's run out.
When someone has a wreck they say he wiped out. There is also the tune featuring the drums called wipe out, and of course the hygenic form of wipe out.
If you fail in school they say you flunked out.
When you don't have activitity on a computer the Internet connection will time out. In sports a break in the game is called a time out.
An electrical circuit will sometimes short out, or it can ground out.
After a nuclear blast you have fall out.
If you're on a date you go out. You might park on a side road and make out.
If you're sick you go to the doctor to get checked out. Also, when you leave a motel you check out.
They hook you up to an EKG machine and it gives them a read out.
Before they will see you, they give you papers to fill out.
If you get a hole in your gas tank it will leak out.
If your phone is messed up, you can't call out.
If an outside event is cancelled due to rain they say it's rained out.
If you overtighten a bolt if can strip out. Sometimes it has to be drilled out.
According to the TV ad, if you stain your clothes you can Shout it out.
If you act up in church or a club, you might get kicked out.
If you want to be in a band, a play, a ball team, etc... you can try out.
If there's too many on the team you might get weeded out.
If you get yelled at with profanity you are cussed out. If you screw up at work you might get reamed out or balled out.
If you're waiting on more money for a gig, you might be holding out.
If you car is dirty, it needs to be cleaned out.
If you rupture you aorta, you could bleed out.
If you're tired you are pooped out.
If you're stuck in the mud you might get pulled out.
If you miss work or school without excuse, you lay out.
If you chose not to participate in something you can opt out.
If you escape from jail, you break out. If they release you, you get out. A rash is also considered breaking out.
There's lots more, but I can't find a defination of "rock out" If it's something related to rock music, why are country players doing it?
That all, so I'm over and out.
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Luke Morell
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Ramsey Illinois, USA Hometown of Tex Williams
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Posted 6 Feb 2010 9:31 pm
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When you find out ,let us know..  |
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Craig Allen
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Posted 6 Feb 2010 11:08 pm
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| I TAKE IT YOU DIDN'T GIG THIS WEEKEND EITHER.. LOL.. YOU HAVE WAY TOOOOOOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS..BY THE WAY.. IS I-40 OPENED UP YET THROUGH THE GORGE?? |
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b0b
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Posted 6 Feb 2010 11:27 pm
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Rock out: to jam on a repetitive 4-bar segment with a rock beat, often at the end of a song ("take it out"). Most professional musicians do know how to rock out, regardless of what kind of music is their bread and butter. 
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Andy Sandoval
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Bakersfield, California, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 1:20 am
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Turn on, tune in, and Rock out!  |
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 5:37 am
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Rick,
When you hear it, you'll know it! |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 7:26 am
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| C Allen wrote: |
| I TAKE IT YOU DIDN'T GIG THIS WEEKEND EITHER.. LOL.. YOU HAVE WAY TOOOOOOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS..BY THE WAY.. IS I-40 OPENED UP YET THROUGH THE GORGE?? |
Yes, I did gig this weekend. Friday and a session Saturday afternoon. It was supposed to be country but a lot of it was rock. Johnny Be Good, Stagerlee, Proud Mary, Old Time Rock and Roll, etc... Maybe I rocked out, and didn't realize it? Actually, I'm a good multi-tasker. I wrote this while I was watching some TV and in between phone calls during work. It was not a one session project.... a couple of weeks in the development of this masterpiece. No, I don't think I-40 has opened yet.
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| Rock out: to jam on a repetitive 4-bar segment with a rock beat, often at the end of a song ("take it out"). Most professional musicians do know how to rock out, regardless of what kind of music is their bread and butter. |
b0b,
What's the source of your definiation? I've played a lot of professional music and I've never been called on to "rock out", and I hope I never do. Country or bluegrass bands might, in rare cases, play a repetitive 4 bar jam, but I've never heard it referred to as "rocking out". 
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Theresa, are you a rock musician? I was curious from a musician's point of view. Non-musicians often confuse musicial terms. I've heard and played some pretty weird stuff in my time, but I never heard a real country band say anything about "rocking out". If you're not a real country band, then I suppose you could do that. I'm not a rock player, so I wouldn't be familiar with their terms.
I did find some evidence of music related to "rocking out" here: http://www.amazon.com/Music-rock-out-pt-1/lm/247KD2V1X4W76
So, thanks for the input from everyone. I've drawn my conclusion that "rocking out" is a practice of rock players and I'm not surprised that I never heard Conway tell John Hughey to "rock out".
If it comes up in the future, I'm going to ask Fred Flintstone about "rocking out". I bet him or Barney would know.
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Charles Davidson
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Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 8:53 am
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Rick, Did you see Marty Sturet play that mandolin solo on RFD last night ? He was ROCKING it out, Mr. Bill would have been proud. The original ROCK OUT guy was Hank Williams years before the term was coined. You say you never played ROCK, If you ever played [RAW HIDE] You were ROCKING OUT. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC.
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Ron Whitfield
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:13 am To be used as inspiration, take as needed...
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| The term comes from musicians getting in some serious fun and pushing it to get themselves and listeners 'up', which is a good thing even if it's a slow sad song. |
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Bo Borland
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:21 am
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Rick, it's just a figure of speech like "cut it loose" or "take it away Leon" by the way did Leon ever really take it away?
Granny used to rock out on the porch and shoot squirrels too . |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:33 am
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| Charles Davidson wrote: |
| Rick, Did you see Marty Sturet play that mandolin solo on RFD last night ? He was ROCKING it out, Mr. Bill would have been proud. The original ROCK OUT guy was Hank Williams years before the term was coined. You say you never played ROCK, If you ever played [RAW HIDE] You were ROCKING OUT. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC. |
Bama,
I heard Marty play rawhide over 30 years ago when he was with Lester Flatt. I'm still confused. Rawhide doesn't meet b0b's definiation of rocking out. Rawhide is very structured 1,4,5 with a bridge part of 3,6,2,5. There's no four bar repetitive jamming.
I didn't say I've never played rock. I played it as recently as Friday night. I may have even rocked out. I don't know for sure because that's not been defined to my satisfaction.
Now, Truman has been bringing every rock he can find in the yard up and laying it on the back porch. I wonder if he's rocking out.
My original post at the start of the thread is a question, not a statement. I'm yet to find a clear answer.
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:39 am
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| Bo Borland wrote: |
Rick, it's just a figure of speech like "cut it loose" or "take it away Leon" by the way did Leon ever really take it away?
Granny used to rock out on the porch and shoot squirrels too . |
I never heard Earnest or Buck tell Leon or Don to "rock out".
Is rock out a figure of speech used to describe playing rock music, or the extension of a song in a jamming fashion? |
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Theresa Galbraith
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:49 am
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| I think Conway could have told John to "Rock Out" since he was rock before country! lol |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:49 am Re: To be used as inspiration, take as needed...
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| Ron Whitfield wrote: |
| The term comes from musicians getting in some serious fun and pushing it to get themselves and listeners 'up', which is a good thing even if it's a slow sad song. |
By getting listeners "up" do you mean like a standing ovation? I used to work with a guy that would have the audience stand and sing Will The Circle Be Unbroken as the last song of show and it was an automation standing ovation. This was Jimmy Martin, he did it on the "Circle" album with the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band........ a million seller. I saw them present Jimmy the gold record on the stage at our shared home town... Sneedville, TN.
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Ray Montee
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:55 am Now Rick, get a good grip on yourself..............
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I see a pattern here, where you seem to be treking more and more, right along the ragged edge of good debate here on the Forum......
Crossing that line might cause you to be "Blocked out".......or, "Cut out" of the flock.
Surely hope not. |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:56 am
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| Theresa Galbraith wrote: |
| I think Conway could have told John to "Rock Out" since he was rock before country! lol |
That's true, I thought about that. Harold Jenkins was also a professional baseball player before he went country. What about you, you didn't answer my question.... Are you a rock musician?
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 10:59 am
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| I'm not, but I liked it better than country when I was a hippy! |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 11:04 am Re: Now Rick, get a good grip on yourself..............
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| Ray Montee wrote: |
I see a pattern here, where you seem to be treking more and more, right along the ragged edge of good debate here on the Forum......
Crossing that line might cause you to be "Blocked out".......or, "Cut out" of the flock.
Surely hope not. |
I think it's a fair question, and I welcome the various opinion of what the term means to different forum members. I posted it in the music section so to draw responses from musicians other than just steel players. It's as fair a question as "what's the best strings", or "do you consider yourself a professional", and the most recent "what kind of music do you play" poll thread. |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 11:07 am
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| Theresa Galbraith wrote: |
| I'm not, but I liked it better than country when I was a hippy! |
I was too young to be a hippy. It was pretty much over by the time I got old enough to make decisions on my own. I always thought I would have made a good hippy though.
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Ray Montee
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 11:13 am An after thought.............................
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Hey Rick.........maybe it's Eddy Arnold's fault!
He recorded "Rockin' Alone" before "ROCK" had really been discovered in the mainstream.
What d'you think? |
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 11:31 am Re: An after thought.............................
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Hey Rick.........maybe it's Eddy Arnold's fault!
He recorded "Rockin' Alone" before "ROCK" had really been discovered in the mainstream.
What d'you think? |
That could be true. I wouldn't say "fault" because that has a negative ring to it. I don't see it as a bad thing to rock out, if that's what one wants to do. In fact, I'm glad when they define it as rock, instead of playing rock and calling it country.
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Craig Allen
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BEREA, KENTUCKY, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 12:10 pm
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I DON'T THINK THAT YOU POSED A QUESTION, RICK.. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE A STATEMENT..
YOU'RE JUST TRYIN' TO STIR THE STINK.. LOL..
AND.............. YOU PLAYED ROCK ON FRIDAY NIGHT!! THAT'S SACRILEGIOUS.. LOL..
OH, DID YOU MENTION BUMMED OUT..[/b] |
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b0b
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 12:51 pm
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| Rock out: to jam on a repetitive 4-bar segment with a rock beat, often at the end of a song ("take it out"). Most professional musicians do know how to rock out, regardless of what kind of music is their bread and butter. |
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b0b,
What's the source of your definiation? I've played a lot of professional music and I've never been called on to "rock out", and I hope I never do. Country or bluegrass bands might, in rare cases, play a repetitive 4 bar jam, but I've never heard it referred to as "rocking out". |
My definition is based on experience. You must have a very narrow vocabulary if you've never heard the term "rock out". Then you say "I hope I never do" which leads me to believe that you know exactly what rocking out means, and that your question is a disingenuous put-down of rock musicians.
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| Theresa, are you a rock musician? I was curious from a musician's point of view. Non-musicians often confuse musicial terms. I've heard and played some pretty weird stuff in my time, but I never heard a real country band say anything about "rocking out". If you're not a real country band, then I suppose you could do that. I'm not a rock player, so I wouldn't be familiar with their terms. |
It's such a common phrase that it is used by fans as well as by musicians. But of course you know that. Your only purpose in starting this topic is to mock the musical traditions of people who play or enjoy rock music.
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Rick Campbell
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Sneedville, TN, USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 12:51 pm
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| C Allen wrote: |
I DON'T THINK THAT YOU POSED A QUESTION, RICK.. IT LOOKS TO ME LIKE A STATEMENT..
YOU'RE JUST TRYIN' TO STIR THE STINK.. LOL..
AND.............. YOU PLAYED ROCK ON FRIDAY NIGHT!! THAT'S SACRILEGIOUS.. LOL..
OH, DID YOU MENTION BUMMED OUT..[/b] |
Yes, it's a question. Go back and read the original post. Yes, I played some rock on Friday night. Not because I wanted to, but you know how it is with a dance crowd. "Old Time Rock and Roll", etc... don't know why a country band does that song, but they all do it around here. We did do one 4/4 shuffle. They asked me to play fiddle on something and I played "I Thought I Heard You Calling My Name" at about 120 bpm, in D with walking bass, followed by "Down Yonder" for the cloggers. I'm not much of a steel player anyway, and when you get into boogie woogie rock songs, I'm lost, and I'll probably stay lost because I don't have any interest in learning speed picking for those. I can play the ballads okay, but there's not many of them.
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Theresa Galbraith
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Goodlettsville,Tn. USA
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Posted 7 Feb 2010 1:00 pm
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