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Topic: I hate recorders. |
Bill Dobkins
From: Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 7:10 pm
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Every time I get a song sounding good ( or I think It does) I try to record it and find out just how awful it really sounds. I hope I don't sound that bad when I play live. If so I'm going to a kazoo.
BD _________________ Custom Rittenberry SD10
Boss Katana 100 Amp
Positive Grid Spark amp
BJS Bars
Z~Legend Pro,Custom Tele
Honor our Vet's.
Now pass the gravy. |
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Ulric Utsi-Åhlin
From: Sweden
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 10:24 pm
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Bill,the fact that we can´t approach our own skills
w/ much objectivity plays tricks on us and,sad as
it is,talented people are more often than not
overly self-critical ; I haven´t heard You play
yet,but I´m sure You´re OK...but if You like,we can
do business:You give me Your Pedal Steel Guitar,and
I´ll send a very nice Kazoo to Your home address...McUtsi |
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Per Berner
From: Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 2 Feb 2010 11:29 pm
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I hate the sound of recorders too. Way too shrill and mostly out of tune, especially when played by kids. |
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Martin Johannesson
From: Sweden
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 12:53 am
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Strange? I love recorders!! It sounds beutiful every time I record my playing! |
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Ben Lawson
From: Brooksville Florida
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 3:08 am
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Bill rumor has it that you don't play kazoo all that well. Better stick with the steel. |
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Jason Hull
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 3:48 am recording
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Try to remember that recording is an art in itself. You probably do sound good, but aren't getting a good recording! |
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Per Berner
From: Skovde, Sweden
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 3:56 am
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Where's the fast forward button?
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Carl Kilmer
From: East Central, Illinois
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 7:49 am
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Hey Bill, my recorders always do a fantastic job, of making
everyone sound really good, but when I try to record myself, it
sounds like nothing is working right, I just don't understand that.
Oh my gosh, now that I'm here thinking about, it must be my playing.
Carl "Lucky" Kilmer _________________ aka "Lucky Kay"--Custom built Rittenberry SD10 3X5, Walker S/S, NV-112, and Hilton Pedal |
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William Litaker
From: Kannapolis, North Carolina, USA (deceased)
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 7:56 am
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So that is what the problem is. Its in the recorder!! That is good to know because for a while there I thought it was me!lol William Litaker |
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Ben Jones
From: Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 8:35 am
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"I never go around mirrors" |
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Ray Minich
From: Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 3:33 pm
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The sound of my own voice over a PA system scares me... |
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Bo Legg
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 7:18 pm
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Bill, every time I think I sound bad on a recording I just pop this movie in and watch about 5mins and compare knowing nothing could be as bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtvApi4UlEM |
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Carl Kilmer
From: East Central, Illinois
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 7:29 pm
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Hey Bo, You need to listen to me for a few minutes,
then you could enjoy watching that video for an hour.
Carl "Lucky" Kilmer _________________ aka "Lucky Kay"--Custom built Rittenberry SD10 3X5, Walker S/S, NV-112, and Hilton Pedal |
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Bill Dobkins
From: Rolla Missouri, USA
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 8:28 pm
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Carl, are you playing the big show this year ?
BD _________________ Custom Rittenberry SD10
Boss Katana 100 Amp
Positive Grid Spark amp
BJS Bars
Z~Legend Pro,Custom Tele
Honor our Vet's.
Now pass the gravy. |
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Carl Kilmer
From: East Central, Illinois
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Posted 3 Feb 2010 8:45 pm
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Hi Bill, If I'm in decent shape, and can get my playing down
a little better, I think Bobby wants me to play sometime
on Thursday morning. He asked if wanted to open, I said no,
I want to make sure all my video is hooked up and that it will
be working ok. I don't want to make him any crappy videos for sure.
Hope your gonna be playing there again my friend.
Carl _________________ aka "Lucky Kay"--Custom built Rittenberry SD10 3X5, Walker S/S, NV-112, and Hilton Pedal |
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Ron Sodos
From: San Antonio, Texas USA
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Posted 4 Feb 2010 9:44 am From my perspective
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In my opinion, for me my playing always sounds great in my head and when I record it, it sounds not so good. I think that the recording is exposing the truth. What I think the benefit to this is that if you keep practicing and recording until it does sound good you will truly be a better player. So i keep trying and little by little it is sounding better. The things you hear on the recording that upset you will get better because now you know what you really sound like. |
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Jim Lindsey (Louisiana)
From: Greenwell Springs, Louisiana (deceased)
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Posted 4 Feb 2010 11:12 am
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I used to have a habit of taking a small cassette recorder with me to every practice and almost every gig and recording them (definitely the gigs where we'd learned up a bunch of new songs and were going to run through them for the first time).
I'd set the recorder nearest to my amps to get the steel "out front" on tape, but still hear the rest of the band ... then I'd critique my playing as I listened to the tapes on the drive home ... identifying the spots that needed work. Every time I heard something on the tape I'd think "Man, I should have played that better."
Gary Hogue used to tell me that I was overly critical of myself and that I was my own worst enemy because I never seemed to hear any of the good stuff, only the trouble areas that needed work and improvement (which, to my own ears at the time, seemed to be everything I played).
Instead of recording over the same tape, I'd chunk it into a large suitcase and grab a new tape for the next recording. Thus, I ended up with literally hundreds of cassettes all stuffed into a very large suitcase and stored away. These go all the way back to when I'd been playing only a week and a half and span all the way to when I quit playing ... it's kind of cool in a way because it's like having a whole history of my playing career all the way back to when I was a beginner. Anyway, when I quit playing back in 2000, that suitcase full of tapes got stored away and didn't resurface until this past summer.
What I find humorously ironic about those recordings is that at the time I did them and listened to them, I despised them and all I could think about was all the stuff I felt needed work and improvement, which was everything. Now, here it is all these years later and I've finally listened to some of the tapes again and the thought hits me, "Wow, that really sounded good" _________________ 1986 Mullen D-10 with 8 & 7 (Dual Bill Lawrence 705 pickups each neck)
Two Peavey Nashville 400 Amps (with a Session 500 in reserve) - Yamaha SPX-90 II
Peavey ProFex II - Yamaha R-1000 Digital Reverb - Ross Time Machine Digital Delay - BBE Sonic Maximizer 422A
ProCo RAT R2DU Dual Distortion - Korg DT-1 Pro Tuner (Rack Mounted) - Furman PL-8 Power Bay
Goodrich Match-Bro by Buddy Emmons - BJS Steel Bar (Dunlop Finger Picks / Golden Gate Thumb Picks) |
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Carl Kilmer
From: East Central, Illinois
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Posted 4 Feb 2010 4:46 pm
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Jim, I'm with you. I quit playing in 1984, and never liked my playing.
I never thought I was good, My wife found a video tape of us in 1984 at
Larry Holmes night club in Easton, Pa. I played it, couldn't believe
how good I played back then. So I made some DVD's of it for friends.
I just hope after all I've been thru for the last 2 years, that I'll be
able to play 1/4 that good eventually.
Carl "Lucky" Kilmer _________________ aka "Lucky Kay"--Custom built Rittenberry SD10 3X5, Walker S/S, NV-112, and Hilton Pedal |
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Damir Besic
From: Nashville,TN.
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Posted 4 Feb 2010 6:56 pm
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when I was playing full time on the road people would drive for miles to come see me play, these days they drive for miles just to get away...
Db _________________ www.steelguitarsonline.com |
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