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Zach Keele

 

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Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 27 Jan 2010 10:03 pm    
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I have a question for Paul, or anyone else who might know.

I want to add some pulls and a vertical lever to my guitar. Once I add the lever I'll have a 9x7, so I should have plenty to keep me busy. Obviously a 3x1 would keep me busy enough, but I feel like I've advanced to the point that i could use some of the more modern changes, and it will make it easier to use some of the more advanced steel courses.

I'd like to set my E9 up like Mr. Franklin's so that I can use any of his educational materials, and to modernize my changes. Right now it is set up the way my dad had it back in the 80s when the article about Paul came out in the steel guitar magazine.

Is the copedent listed on this website up to date or has it changed? Thanks.
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Zach Keele

 

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Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jan 2010 11:22 am    
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Never mind, he has it listed http://www.paul-franklin.com/talking.html.

According to this copedent, he is raising his low G# to B. Is this current? Has Paul done away with the E lower and gone back to the B raise?

I thought the E lower sounded way cool. I believe i'll put it on mine regardless, since it will do it, instead of the B raise, and try it out. If I don't like it, I'll just move a rod.
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Post  Posted 28 Jan 2010 11:30 am    
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Zach Keele

 

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Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 28 Jan 2010 11:37 am    
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Thanks b0b.
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Franklin

 

Post  Posted 28 Jan 2010 5:45 pm    
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Zach,

It is correct.....I have several steels and most raise the G# to B...That change is very cool in todays settings......One steel lowers the G# to E and is very cool...If the music was more traditional based I would have that change on most of my guitars.....More pedals, more fun!

Paul
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Zach Keele

 

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Post  Posted 28 Jan 2010 6:10 pm     Thanks
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"More pedals, more fun!"

My thoughts exactly. Why would anyone want to play anything else? I can't learn to use 'em if I don't have 'em. Thanks Paul and b0b. Now i'll just have to get a few parts.
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John Macy

 

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Post  Posted 28 Jan 2010 9:58 pm    
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"More pedals, more fun"...Jimmie Crawford is smiling up above over that quote Smile...and I agree....I have the G# to B change on my two main guitars and love it....(and damn, I miss Jimmie Sad)
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Kyle Everson

 

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Nashville, Tennessee
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 2:08 am    
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Zach, if I remember your setup correctly, you should only have to move the pull rods to a different slot on the bellcrank to get the 1 and 7 to raise a full step. I guess you'd need a bellcrank and rod for the second string (extras of which I may have at a later date). Let me know how it comes out.
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Zach Keele

 

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Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 8:51 am    
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I think you're right Kyle. I'm going to change around what I can do myself, and I'll have Mr. Franklin or Jeff Surrat add the lever and a half stop on the first string. I'll try to get it done in the next few weeks. Mine is almost there as it sits, yours was a different situation. Shocked
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richard burton


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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 10:43 am    
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It's never occurred to me to either raise my sixth to B, or lower it to E.

I'm curious to know the benefits of these changes, I might add one to my setup, possibly with a heel pedal à la Barry Gaskell
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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 7:58 pm    
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I raise my middle F# to G# on a pedal. For a while I had a lever that lowered the same string to F# to E, for a "strummable" effect. One day I suddenly realized that I could take the string seamlessly from E to G# (or G# to E). As Paul says, it's very cool. Radical, even. Lots of fun, even if it is a bit gimmicky.
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Rick Schmidt


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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 8:58 pm    
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It's pedal #4 that baffles my brain! Whoa!

Is it really 9 pulls on one pedal ????? If so, wow!!!!
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Harry Dove

 

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Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 9:00 pm    
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From what I've seen or heard of Paul's setup, I thought his LKV did raise the G# to B rather than lower it to E. I could be wrong but I thought he had that on his web site at one time. Of course he could have changed by now. I would also be interested in the amount of detuning or cabinet drop with pedal 4. Even though there are 9 pulls it seems close to balanced with the raises and lowers. I would like to see that on a meter.

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Greg Meteyer

 

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New York, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 9:07 pm    
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On Paul's RKR lever, I also thought there was a 1/2 stop at G on strings 1 and 7?
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Zach Keele

 

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Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 9:14 pm    
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Greg,
I'm pretty sure there is a half stop. Mine will have one. I use the F# to G change to much to guess at it.

Harry,
Paul said earlier in the thread that most of his guitars raise to B, but he has one set up to lower to E.
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Dean Parks

 

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Sherman Oaks, California, USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 9:38 pm    
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Correct on the str 1 and 7 half-stop.
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Dan Tyack

 

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Olympia, WA USA
Post  Posted 29 Jan 2010 10:52 pm    
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Rick Schmidt wrote:
It's pedal #4 that baffles my brain! Whoa!

Is it really 9 pulls on one pedal ????? If so, wow!!!!


That's because you don't have a Franklin. Smile

I had those changes on my 4th pedal and it was easy to use barefoot.
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Franklin

 

Post  Posted 30 Jan 2010 6:38 am    
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My Triple Neck Franklin still lowers the G# to E......I use half stops on 1 and 7.....
I use the exact gauges of my Jagwire set.....plain 020 for the G# works for either the lower to E or the raise to B.

PF
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Zach Keele

 

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Murfreesboro, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 30 Jan 2010 8:05 am    
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Thanks Paul, I really appreciate it.
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Ken Brower


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North Haledon, New Jersey, USA
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2010 8:53 pm    
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I switched my Fessy U12 to incorporate Paul Franklin's P4 setup (based the chart B0b posted in ths thread). It is a great addition to my E9 playability.

I see on that same chart that Paul has an additional raise on pedal 3 that raises the 8th string from E to F#. What does that raise provide since the 7th string is already tuned to F#?
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Brett Lanier

 

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Madison, TN
Post  Posted 5 Mar 2010 9:58 pm    
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How the heck does the sixth string come back in tune from E?

On RKR, does he have to pull all the strings on E9 up to get the A to Bb change on C6? Does the Bb land on the half-step?
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Jim Hollingsworth

 

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Way out West
Post  Posted 6 Mar 2010 6:52 am     About that C6 boo - wah
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Paul,
I recently saw a photocopy of a copedant (said to be yours) that showed you had combined the 9 & 10 string lowers (boo wah) with your 9 pedal that raises c to C# & drops E to D. Is that current or was that a passing thing? Also - let me go one record as saying that the 5 pedal that raises F to A, A to C, & C to D is the greatest thing since sliced bread! Great idea - thanks!
Jim
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Tony Dingus

 

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Kingsport, Tennessee, USA
Post  Posted 6 Mar 2010 10:50 am    
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Paul, you mentioned the triple neck, do you use the baritone neck anymore ?

Tony
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Jim Hollingsworth

 

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Way out West
Post  Posted 11 Mar 2010 8:30 am    
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Jim Hollingsworth

 

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