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Topic: Fender 2000 C6th Copedent Ideas |
Nathan Sarver
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Washington State, USA
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Posted 7 Jan 2010 10:51 pm |
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I was hoping for suggestions on setting up a good C6 copedent when I'm limited to only a pair of pulls per pedal.
Here's what I've been dinking around with so far:
I left pedal 4 blank to keep my options open. Any thoughts would be appreciated. |
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Earnest Bovine
From:
Los Angeles CA USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2010 10:04 am
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| Curly Chalker solved the problem of not enough pulls for P5 and P8 by using low D and low A strings. But he had to give up a high string so his first string was E. I don't think the low strings are that important. |
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Jay Jessup
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Charlottesville, VA, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2010 10:13 am
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I agree with Earnest's comments about the low strings---that's bass player territory and it's usually pretty tough to set a tone that works on the rest of the guitar and still keep those strings punchy enough to sound good out front of a bandstand.
Consider a simple C to B lower for the 4'th pedal. |
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Ryan Barwin
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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 8 Jan 2010 2:25 pm
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On P5, the F to F# raise is more important than the C to D raise.
On P4, I'd raise the A's to Bb. Or lower the G to F and raise the low C to D. But you'll want to combine either of those pedals with pedal 6, so you probably want to move your current P5-8 to 4-7, and put one of those changes in the P8 spot.
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2010 2:26 pm
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I'm with Jay. I lower the C's 1/2 step and it's VERY nice. But you have a Fender! You can change anything you want, whenever you want...in seconds!
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 8 Jan 2010 2:52 pm
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You could also just get rid of the low C, and add another string somewhere else. Maybe a middle D, or a high G, or a high B between the E and D.
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Nathan Sarver
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Washington State, USA
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Posted 8 Jan 2010 2:56 pm
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Ryan, so your idea is to take what I have now, replace the C to D raise with the F to F# raise, and move everything back one pedal? I'm unclear which change I'd be combining with P6 and what I'd then be sticking in the P8 spot.
Thanks for the input, everybody. |
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John Bechtel
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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Jan 2010 9:44 pm
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On P-4, if you don't want the standard Raise of 4 & 8 (1-tone) [A] to [B], I would suggest Lower #2 (½-tone) E to Eb and Raise #6 (½-tone) E to F. Just the opposite of P-6. I think if I had a 2000, I'd use the following copedents:
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E9__1__2__3__9__10___
F#___________________
D#___________________
G#_____A_____________
E_________F#_____F___
B___C#____C#_________
G#_____A_____________
F#___________________
E____________Eb__F___
D____________________
B___C#_______________
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C6__4__5__6__7__8__9___
D______________________
E___Eb____F____________
C____________D_________
A____________B_________
G______F#______________
E___F_____Eb___________
C_______________C#_____
A______________________
F______F#_______E______
C__________________A___
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P's 9 & 10 are the same as two of Lloyd Green's KL's, so; that's all you need on the E9-neck! The 10th str. on P-5 is not a definate need and P's 8 & 9 will complete the Boo~Wah Effect. I think it's worth a try! The other alternative as mentioned before of using the Chalker C6 would also be good! Then you can still Lower both E's on the E9, w/9 & 10! I think I would prefer the above Copedents!
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Ryan Barwin
From:
Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 12 Jan 2010 11:35 pm
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Actually, this is what I'd do...
You could also lower the second string to D on the E9th neck on your 8th pedal, instead of lowering the sixth string to F#.
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John Bechtel
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Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Jan 2010 12:31 am
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Or, you could just leave P-4 on the E9, Lowering #5 & #6 (1-tone) each. Most of the PF change!
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Kurt Nichols
From:
Bend, Oregon
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Posted 28 Jan 2010 12:06 pm
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It is possible to change 3 or 4 strings with one pedal by replacing one or both clips that attach to the changer mechanism with pulley(s. Then, add a new length cable with the clips on the end which attach to the changer. With one additional pulley one can activate 3 levers with one pedal. With two addtional pulleys one can activate 4 levers with one pedal.
I did this many years ago to mine. I do not know if you can still get the pulleys. I got them straight from Fender at the time.
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 28 Jan 2010 1:04 pm
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That could make for a pretty stiff pedal or lever. It can be done. I bought pulleys from the hardware store when I made my knee levers.
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Kurt Nichols
From:
Bend, Oregon
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Posted 28 Jan 2010 1:19 pm
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| The pedal effort isn't bad. I have converted to the basic Emmons set up on my C6th neck. I played it 6 nights a week for many years. |
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