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Topic: What-No comments on Bobbe's Tips |
Wally Taylor
From: Hardin, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 12:14 pm
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After all the debate on "TONE", I can't believe someone has not taken issue with Le Bobsters Tips on tone? Does this mean he has settled it once and for all? Is there no one amongst us to challenge this man?
Actually, I think he got it right.
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 12:34 pm
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We could just let him think he'd settled it once and for all..
What did he say? _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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Roger Crawford
From: Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 12:38 pm
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Bobbe may not always be right, but he's never wrong! |
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b0b
From: Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 12:58 pm
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Well, I sent my response directly to Bobbe and he had the nerve to disagree with me.
Here's what I wrote:
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Regarding tone, you really can't compare steel cabinets to marimba keys - it's apples to oranges. (I play marimba, in case you didn't know.) On a marimba, the keys actually *generate* the note. The quality of the note IS the quality of the key material. On a steel guitar, the strings - not the cabinet - serve the same functions as the keys of a marimba.
You could compare the steel cabinet to the *resonator tubes* of a marimba, and you'd be closer to the mark. The resonators keep the note alive after its been struck, and the quality of their construction plays a large part in the tone of the instrument. The analogy isn't perfect, but it's a lot closer than the "marimba keys to psg cabinet" comparison. |
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Bobbe Seymour
From: Hendersonville TN USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 1:02 pm
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You guys! Great coma material. I'm in one now!
The marimba guy! |
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Wally Taylor
From: Hardin, Kentucky, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 1:21 pm
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Shall we all form a conga line now?
Personally, I think tone is all in the hands and black guitars and now..........marimbas!
Did you guys know Bobbe is also an accomplished drummer?
Wally |
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Eric West
From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 4:20 pm Good Genius/Bad Genius.
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Well I haven't read it yet, but I'm sure that he's got a better more earthling-friendly way of putting it than his Evil-Twin-Alter-Ego..
R##ce...
Love ya Bobbe.
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Jeff Evans
From: Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 7:04 pm
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. . . it was pretty exciting seeing Buck run down the aisle with four bodyguards in his yellow sparkling Nudie Suit. — http://www.steelguitar.net/ |
That does sound entertaining. |
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Frank Parish
From: Nashville,Tn. USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 7:41 pm
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Ok I read the newsletter and after typing a bunch of stuff and deleting all of it I'll just go with it's all relative and we have opinions on tone like we all have...noses! |
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Sonny Priddy
From: Elizabethtown, Kentucky, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 7:43 pm Bobbe
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I Wish I Knew What He Knows. Don't We All? SONNY. |
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Charles Davidson
From: Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 8:13 pm
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ANYTHING Mr. Seymour says is good enough for me. I would'nt want to debate him on anything about the steel guitar. YOU BETCHA.DYK?BC. _________________ Hard headed, opinionated old geezer. BAMA CHARLIE. GOD BLESS AMERICA. ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST. SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC ! |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 8:40 pm
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Again, what did he say???? |
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Roger Rettig
From: Naples, FL
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 9:16 pm
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Dunno, Kevin - Charles was impressed! _________________ Roger Rettig: Emmons D10, B-bender Teles, Martins, and a Gibson Super 400!
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Charles Davidson
From: Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 9:32 pm
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Roger,I don't know what he said. I just take it for granted he was right. He's the HIGH priest of the steel guitar. I never question his opinions. No, I'm not leg humping,It's just a fact he's my favorite picker. If he has'nt done it in his career,it's NOT worth doing. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC. _________________ Hard headed, opinionated old geezer. BAMA CHARLIE. GOD BLESS AMERICA. ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST. SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC ! |
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Kevin Hatton
From: Buffalo, N.Y.
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 10:21 pm
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Will someone please post what was said? |
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Eric West
From: Portland, Oregon, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 10:23 pm
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I don't know what he said. I just take it for granted he was right. He's the HIGH priest of the steel guitar. I never question his opinions. No, I'm not leg humping,It's just a fact he's my favorite picker. If he has'nt done it in his career,it's NOT worth doing.
I think I've read that somewhere before too..
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Charles Davidson
From: Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 11:04 pm
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Will someone PLEASE tell Kevin what he said. YOU BETCHA,DYK?BC. _________________ Hard headed, opinionated old geezer. BAMA CHARLIE. GOD BLESS AMERICA. ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST. SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC ! |
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Steve Norman
From: Seattle Washington, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 11:15 pm
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Kevin he said tone is good _________________ GFI D10, Fender Steel King, Hilton Vpedal,BoBro, National D dobro, Marrs RGS |
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Charles Davidson
From: Phenix City Alabama, USA
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Posted 5 Jan 2010 11:27 pm
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Yes he said tone is good,and after a six-pack of long necks it gets REAL good. YOU BETCHA, DYK?BC. _________________ Hard headed, opinionated old geezer. BAMA CHARLIE. GOD BLESS AMERICA. ANIMAL RIGHTS ACTIVIST. SUPPORT LIVE MUSIC ! |
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David Collins
From: Madison, North Carolina, USA
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Posted 6 Jan 2010 5:10 am
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Kevin,
It was something about split cases really improving the tone of an Emmons PP.
I sent you an e-mail. _________________ David Collins
www.chjoyce.com |
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Ken Byng
From: Southampton, England
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Posted 6 Jan 2010 5:29 am
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I thought it was a very thought provoking piece of Bobbe's on steel guitar cabinets and their construction. I don't believe that anyone has yet fully managed to fully explain why the Emmons push pull has this unique clarity and extraordinary tone. However, this is the first reference that I have seen concerning the cut out section of a push pull body (that facilitates the electrics) as possibly one of the factors that could be affecting the tone. Interesting view.
All I know is that having a large amount of pedal steel guitars pass under my fingers over the years, my push pull is hugely different tone-wise to anything else that I have played. _________________ Show Pro D10 - amber (8+6), MSA D10 Legend XL Signature - redburst (9+6), Sho-Bud Pro 111 Custom (8+6), Emmons black Push-Pull D10 (8+5), Zum D10 (8x8), Hudson pedal resonator. Telonics TCA-500, Webb 614-E, |
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Larry Bell
From: Englewood, Florida
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Don Brown, Sr.
From: New Jersey
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Posted 6 Jan 2010 6:23 am
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Larry, That's a right good description. |
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Tamara James
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Posted 6 Jan 2010 7:25 am
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For a short time, you can see the newsletter here on Bobbe's website:
http://www.steelguitar.net/
on the left will be a menu, click on "newsletter"
I think this is changed everytime he puts out a new one. |
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Jeff Evans
From: Cowtown and The Bill Cox Outfit
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Posted 6 Jan 2010 8:23 am
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What Bobbe said was really something. |
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