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Bill Mayville
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 1:13 pm |
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Key of C.
Song (your cheatin heart)
Object.Chord to look for.
Chord is the (2) minor. D minor in this case.
You are looking for the 5 of where you are going.
The 5 of D is A.
This type of progression is typically played like this.
The 4 chord(F) while playing it,just go to A,then Dm,and then to the 5 chord.
So while going to the 4 chord,you add two more chords.You have plenty of time to do it.In most modern songs,the 2 minor takes place of just going to the 5 chord.
You will hear them rotate from the 2m to the 5,maybe a couple of times more.
This is not the way it was written.It is how bigger bands always play it. The passing chords I have shown you,are only good for about 623,121 songs.
Next week I,ll have time for more.
Bill
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james sluder
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 5:19 pm passing cords
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Jim, thanks for posting this passing cord's thing ! I have been beating my brain's out trying to figure out what other player's are doing ! Now if i can just figure out how to get them i'll be doing good ! 
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james sluder
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Posted 9 Dec 2009 5:22 pm passing cords
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Bill, thanks for posting!
Got my name in there by mistake ,,,sorry !!  |
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Bill Mayville
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Posted 10 Dec 2009 1:34 pm James sluder
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James.
Why don;t
you E mail me about the chords.
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Marke Burgstahler
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 8:34 am
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Bill, thanks for this!
(beginner) <-------
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Twayn Williams
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 10:54 am
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C - F - A -Dm - G
If you use Amajor, you create chromatic motion from the F to A to Dm chords:
F A (C)
A (C#) E
(D) F A
If you were to play an Aminor instead of an Amajor, you would be extending the F chord without any chromatic motion.
Fmajor + Aminor = FM7 (F A C E)
Fmajor + Dminor = F6 or Dm7 (F A C D)
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Sonny Jenkins
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 11:59 am
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| Listen to Bill,,he is VERY helpful!!!!!! |
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Papa Joe Pollick
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 12:28 pm
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 Passing chords,I use a lot of them.
Here's another example that I learned from a steel player..
Silver Wings in the key of C..
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C --- Dmi-Bb-G7------------------C
Silver W-i-n-g-s ...slowly fading out of sight...
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Try it..
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Twayn Williams
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 12:43 pm
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C --- Dmi-Bb-G7------------------C
Dminor = D F (A)
Bb = (Bb) D F
G7 = G (B) D F
Again the chromatic motion is up.
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Bill Mayville
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 12:47 pm Chords again.
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I'll add to the first version.
While playing the same song.
From C to F. C to F.
with the timing,as soon as you hit F,keep on going.
To the A.Then in timing, to the two minor.Dm,
Then to G which is the 5 of C...
If you were to play this same song as an instrumental,I would expect YOU to start the song off
in a certain way.Saying I didn't know you.and I heard the first note played three times in a row,I would guess you were going to go to the five chord,right away.
But,If I heard two notes the same,and one 6th note(A pedal) to us, Then I would go to the two minor,then the 5 chord.(In the same timing)(Quicker).
Years ago it seems like they always went to a five on the turnaround.
Then in the seventies I think Glen with (Gental on your mind) got me to really listen to what was going on.
The five and six piece bands that I played with,always used the 2m.The two and three piece bands
used the five only.The bigger bands always used turnarounds in most of the songs,even when they tore up the older music.
Then I started to listen to the country music on the (elevators).Same thing ,they had made the chamge also.It only makes a bigger sound.Doesn't make it right.
Seems though,most bands do it.Seems to make bigger sounding bands even when there a four piece.
Bill
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Bill Mayville
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 12:56 pm Passing
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Hi there Twayn
You seem to be Music minded.I have heard that PaPa plays some nice tunes.
But as you know,he is not very understanding about something ,and you have picked it out.
Whether he is right or wrong,what is he talking about???
Bill
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Bill Mayville
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 1:21 pm Papa,s passing chords.
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PAPA. I just noticed something.
Before you go to the 2m,you are missing four different chords.
What is it you do,in waiting for the 2m to come up.??
That;s where I am talking about.
Bill
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Papa Joe Pollick
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 1:35 pm
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| Yeah I had the wrong lyircs.I've edited my post to show where I use it.. |
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Bill Mayville
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 1:56 pm Papa
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If you ever need a few more chord patterns,some that are really out there,let me know.Maybe you have some for me.I have never talked music that I didn't get something out of it.
OK For you .The missing Chords.while your'e waiting on that song by Merle.
If in the Key of C.
8/45&6---8/45&6D----8/86&5A----8/86&5 (twice)
then the two minor.
What you hit was C to Em to Am to C (OR)
C to Cmaj 7 to C maj 6 and C
This is another way of learning music.If a band leader says to me ,we will be playing with major 7th's,I know the sound he is looking for.
The train song with Willy and Patsy is just that.
(WAY) in the background,you hear a simple D lever,
and a A pedal added to the chords.
In a million or more songs.Takes a while to hear it.
Then music is yours to Make,listen to ,in a different way.
Bill
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james sluder
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 2:17 pm Re: Chords again.
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bill
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I'll add to the first version.
While playing the same song.
From C to F. C to F.
with the timing,as soon as you hit F,keep on going.
To the A.Then in timing, to the two minor.Dm,
Then to G which is the 5 of C...
If you were to play this same song as an instrumental,I would expect YOU to start the song off
in a certain way.Saying I didn't know you.and I heard the first note played three times in a row,I would guess you were going to go to the five chord,right away.
But,If I heard two notes the same,and one 6th note(A pedal) to us, Then I would go to the two minor,then the 5 chord.(In the same timing)(Quicker).
Years ago it seems like they always went to a five on the turnaround.
Then in the seventies I think Glen with (Gental on your mind) got me to really listen to what was going on.
The five and six piece bands that I played with,always used the 2m.The two and three piece bands
used the five only.The bigger bands always used turnarounds in most of the songs,even when they tore up the older music.
Then I started to listen to the country music on the (elevators).Same thing ,they had made the chamge also.It only makes a bigger sound.Doesn't make it right.
Seems though,most bands do it.Seems to make bigger sounding bands even when there a four piece.
Bill |
Bill can i ask a dumb question here??,,are you playing [ c ] at fret [3] pedals doiwn ??..or up at fret [ 8 ] open pedals ! |
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Twayn Williams
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 3:04 pm
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Something to keep in mind with passing chords is that you usually don't sit on 'em for more than a couple of beats, hence the term "passing" Also, you want to be aware of what the melody line is doing and try not to hit a passing chord that contains a note that would create an unwanted interval with the melody.
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Ray Minich
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Bradford, Pa. Frozen Tundra
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Posted 11 Dec 2009 7:34 pm
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| 46 years and still a beginner. I love learnin' new stuff. Thanks a bunch. |
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Jack Francis
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Posted 12 Dec 2009 7:07 am
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Bill...good to see you back to your old self!!
I'll call you later....Jack
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Dick Sexton
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Posted 12 Dec 2009 1:09 pm It can't be this easy, can it?
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Bill Mayville
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Posted 15 Dec 2009 10:16 am Using Major 7 chords.
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Mr,Sexton.
I have been looking and smiling at your post.
I guess what you are saying is; they are all the same!
Sorry.
It looks the same for (101).
But in the music business,some things go a little further, while in the studio,or on stage.You can't
swap the two styles, just because the movement is the same.
Bill
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Dick Sexton
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Greenville, Ohio
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Posted 15 Dec 2009 10:28 am
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Hey Bill, A big Texas howdy!
I actually was asking the question, are they the same?
Always been confusing to me...
Studio? What's that? It's a place I hope to visit one day maybe. |
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Bill Mayville
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Las Vegas Nevada * R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Dec 2009 11:12 am Chord Patterns.
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Mr.Sexton
I Cannot reveal all to U.
It would not be fair to the steel teachers.
There is only so much you can tell.Maybe that
is why it takes a few years to play this instrument.
Took me forever!!!
Well,I'm still learning,I guess.
Are you wanting to swap some licks with me???
You first.Have to watch you Ohio guys.
Bill
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Twayn Williams
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Posted 15 Dec 2009 3:39 pm
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| Dick Sexton wrote: |
I actually was asking the question, are they the same?
Always been confusing to me... |
C6 = c-e-g-a
Am7 = a-c-e-g
The bass player will favor A when playing Am7, but a C when playing C6.
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