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Topic: Half Stop on 2nd String |
Marke Burgstahler
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SF Bay Area, CA
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Posted 30 Nov 2009 11:36 am |
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Hi all
I have a Carter S-10. My LKR has a half stop on the second string for 7th chords, but sometimes I kick it over a bit too far and drop the string past the stop.
Is this something I should assume will improve with experience, or is there an adjustment I can make to make the LKR a bit harder to push past the half stop? I rarely use the full travel for 6th chords, and I could always "relax" the adjustment (if it exists) as I expand my chord vocabulary and begin to use 6ths more often.
(newbie alert) 
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richard burton
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Britain
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Posted 30 Nov 2009 1:07 pm
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If I remember correctly, Carter use a dummy eleventh finger as a half-stop. To make it a bit stiffer, cut a couple of coils off the spring, or, alternatively, drop the ninth string a semitone (on the same knee lever that drops the second string) and use the start point of the ninth string drop as the half-tone point of the second string  |
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Micky Byrne
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United Kingdom (deceased)
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Posted 2 Dec 2009 10:09 am Re: Half Stop on 2nd String
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Marke, listen to my pal Richard, affectionately known to me a "spring man" he really knows his stuff and has done some work for me on both my Sho-Bud and Carter universals.
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b0b
From:
Cloverdale, CA, USA
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Posted 2 Dec 2009 11:15 am
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I was never able to get used to the half stop. I have the changes on two separate levers, and I use the D much more often than the C#. Don't just think of it as a "7th chord note" - think of it as a "pedals down scale note".
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Jonathan Cullifer
From:
Gallatin, TN
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Posted 2 Dec 2009 11:42 am
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| My Carter's 9th string lower pull is timed with the half stop. Make sure they're adjusted to activate at the same time, or the half stop will feel spongy. I rarely use the half stop itself since the 9th string lower does the same job. |
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Lee Baucum
From:
McAllen, Texas (Extreme South) The Final Frontier
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Posted 2 Dec 2009 12:57 pm
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Paddy Long
From:
Christchurch, New Zealand
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Posted 2 Dec 2009 4:23 pm
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Unfortunately Carters don't have adjustable lower return springs --- with adjustable ones it is relatively easy just to adjust the return spring until the half stop resistance suits you ...otherwise it looks like you have to trim the spring !
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Bill Moore
From:
Manchester, Michigan
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Posted 2 Dec 2009 4:38 pm
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There is a tuning nut on the "11th finger" that is used to adjust this stop. First adjust the full step lower on 2 and the 1/2 step lower on 9 with their respective tuning nuts. Then adjust the half stop using the tuning nut on the 11th finger. If set properly, it gives a nice feel stop.
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Peter Freiberger
From:
California, USA
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Posted 2 Dec 2009 6:17 pm
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| Put the pull rod for the 11th finger on the bellcrank as far from the axle as you can, and through the hole closest to the pivot point for the 11th finger. That will give you the most firm feel stop, along with picking up a lower for string 9, a great change you should have with the 2nd string lower. |
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Fred Glave
From:
McHenry, Illinois, USA
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Posted 3 Dec 2009 8:32 am
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I like to keep that pull a little on the stiff side, so I don't shoot past the 1/2 stop. Like bOb said, the D is probably more valuable than the C#. I wish I could also have it on a seperate lever, but there are only so many levers I can have. I like the way the D# to C# sounds bending downward with the E's raised to F.
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