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Topic: Blues in a minor key on C6 neck |
Joachim Kettner
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Germany
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Posted 20 Nov 2009 4:51 am |
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I will have to play two dates with a band where I mostly play on the front neck. But there are two songs where I want to use C6. One I already know, it's going basicly from D may7 to Gmay7. (With the help of Ricky Davis' chord chart) I can get along with placing the bar on the ninth fret to get the Dmay7.
But there is also a slow blues not dissimilar to The Thrill Is Gone by B.B. King. I found that to get a C minor it's on the third fret, strings eight, six, four and three.
Would some of you please tell me where other positions for this chord would be, and maybe a lick for the solo?
Thank you. |
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Ferdinando Ghidelli
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Caserta, Italy
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 20 Nov 2009 2:09 pm F & G lever changes
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| Thanks Ferdinando. For your F and G levers, can you tell me which string(s) are raised or lowered and by how much, please? Crowbear, thanks for resurrecting this valuable info too. Same question for you: What do the F and G levers do in Trap Truly's C6 chord table? I assume one is the common string 3 half tone lower. stevet |
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John Steele
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 20 Nov 2009 8:29 pm
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One thing I think alot of people stumble over playing minor blues are the V chords.
There are exceptions to every rule, but generally speaking, any V chord (in relation to the minor I) in a minor blues should not contain the natural 9th. Either a flat 9 or sharp 9 is preferred. The same with the 13ths... natural 13ths sound harsh, they are better flattened or left out entirely.
As 9th chords abound on the C6 neck, it's important to have spent some seat time in negotiating your various suitable V chord positions, or you'll land on one in the heat of battle and it'll be bad. Very bad.
To get the feeling of what I'm talking about, next time you have to play the V chord in a minor blues on C6, go one fret above open position for the V chord, use your 5th and 6th pedals as well as your 3rd string lower, which will become the root. This is a 7b9 chord, and it makes a much more pleasing V chord than the natural 9th when in a minor key.
Of course the 7#9 chord is another option, found many places including using the feared and dreaded 8th pedal, as well as strings 1, 4 & 6 with pedal 6.
- John
Last edited by John Steele on 20 Nov 2009 8:42 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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John Steele
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Renfrew, Ontario, Canada
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Posted 20 Nov 2009 8:39 pm
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Joachim,
You can also find C minor at the open fret or 12th fret by using your 5th pedal to make your major chord minor. Of course you also end up with the 6th (A) in there on your 4th string, which can be raised a half tone if you have that lever in order to make it Cm7.
At the third fret position you mentioned, don't be afraid to play around with your 7th pedal a bit. It will make your Cm7 into Cm9 (strings 4,5,6,7,8 ) or if you include the 3rd string, Cm11. Adding and subtracting that pedal gives you some cool effects and ways to play around with the Cm chord.
Another position involves using the 7th pedal. For C minor, it would be at the 8th fret... for instance, strings 1,2 and 4, and then lean into that pedal. Or strings 4,5, and 6. Same thing.... start without the pedal, strike the three strings together and then press the pedal. There are many many different string combinations you may use at this position, so check them out.
I hope that is helpful.
- John |
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CrowBear Schmitt
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Ariege, - PairO'knees, - France
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Posted 21 Nov 2009 12:57 am
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the F lever lowers string 3 a half step
& the G lever raises string 4 (& 8 optional) a half step |
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Joachim Kettner
From:
Germany
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Posted 21 Nov 2009 11:17 am
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Thanks to everyone of you for the information!
I have a day of work behind me, and my brain doesn't work as it should. I will try it tomorrow.
Thanks again. |
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Ferdinando Ghidelli
From:
Caserta, Italy
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steve takacs
From:
beijing, china via pittsburgh (deceased)
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Posted 5 Dec 2009 11:14 pm
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| Thanks, for the clarification regrading the knee levers, Crowbear, John thanks, for the info negotiating the when playing the V chord in minor blues. I've stumbled over that one al lot. stevet |
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