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William Hoff


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Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 18 Nov 2009 4:31 am    
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I'm a guitar player and I've been goofing with lap steel for 40 plus years. Sadly, I've never utilized it to any extent in any of the bands I've played with. Well I got in a band recently and I'm playing the lead guitar stuff and all of the keyboards. I don't like keyboards(particularly hauling them around), they are no fun for me and there isn't that tactile response that I like with guitar or steel. Last night I started transposing keyboard parts to the steel and I think it's going to work. With enough effects, tunings(D-6 Stringmaster) and dynamic control I think I am going to finally be playing steel in a band. We practice Friday night, so I am hoping this works out well. Besides there are no steel players doing rock in our area, so it might be a plus for the band. I know it's going to be a big plus for me.
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norm mcdaniel

 

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waco tx
Post  Posted 18 Nov 2009 4:41 am    
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Very Happy Very Happy William, Keep us posted as to the results of your efforts. I play pedal steel but never played lap out where any one can hear it. Im interested in your results.

Norm in Waco Texas Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
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Mike Neer


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Post  Posted 18 Nov 2009 5:12 am    
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Way to go. Good luck with it.
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Tom Pettingill


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California, USA (deceased)
Post  Posted 18 Nov 2009 6:37 am    
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Cool ... looking forward to hearing how it goes. Out of curiosity, what songs are you transposing?
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Mark van Allen


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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 18 Nov 2009 9:49 am    
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Hi, William, and a big yes on the pluses of rock on steel. You will be surprised to find out how many kids
    A)know what it is
    B) will point you out to friends and bring more to see you play it
    C)dig the sound!
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Stan Schober


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Cahokia, Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 18 Nov 2009 10:09 am    
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Heya, Bill !

I'm right across the river in Cahokia, Let me know where you're playing, I'll try to catch a set or two !
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James Kerr


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Scotland, UK
Post  Posted 18 Nov 2009 11:45 am    
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The best answer I can give to this is to tell you about Rusty Young fronting Poco in the early 70s hooked me forever with his Mosrite Mellobar, playing the Apollo Theatre in Glasgow, Scotland.

James.
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William Hoff


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Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 22 Nov 2009 7:52 am    
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Well I have to say practice went great. Besides having a blast on the steel(sounds much better than my keyboard playing), the band took my advice on playing in a band. These guys are all 10 years yonger than I am, and when they started out I guess I was kinda a mentor. The one thing they never managed to learn in the last 20 years is dynamics and volume control. I gave them the advice that was given to me by the best guitar player ever. Eddie "Mole" Hollar (RIP) from Opal VA. He taught me these rules back when I was a drummer.

1. If you can't hear someone, you are too loud.

2. When the vocals kick in, cut your perceived volume by a third.

3. When someone is taking a solo cut your perceived volume by a quarter.

These rules have searved me well, and the new band is benifitting from Moles advice now.
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Don Barnhardt

 

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North Carolina, USA
Post  Posted 22 Nov 2009 5:55 pm    
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Those are good rules to live by. I hope all the fiddle and banjo players are reading this.
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William Hoff


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Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2009 11:48 am    
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We are still kicking around a name for the band and I suggested since we are utilizing the Steel, and we play a LOT of Stones and simular stuff. Why not Steel Wheels

So far most of them are into it.
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William Hoff


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Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2009 12:50 pm    
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Tom Pettingill wrote:
Cool ... looking forward to hearing how it goes. Out of curiosity, what songs are you transposing?


So far, The horn parts of Bitch and the piano and slide parts of Dead Flowers by the Stones, the hammond parts of Working for a Livin by Huey Lewis, the synth parts of Turning Japanese by the Vapors, the piano parts of Money by The Beatles, and a few others that I can't remember without the list.
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William Hoff


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Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2009 12:52 pm    
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Don Barnhardt wrote:
Those are good rules to live by. I hope all the fiddle and banjo players are reading this.


HA!
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Charles Davidson

 

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Phenix City Alabama, USA
Post  Posted 23 Nov 2009 3:25 pm    
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William,if you play a lot of rock or southern rock the steel [just my opinion] would be great other than keys. The band I play in does about 20 percent classic country,80 percent rock. The steel [I play E9th] with a good distortion pedal,I use a Boss D-S1 works well. I used to use a six string Cat Can with distortion on rock and blues,sounded great. I just use one guitar now, The E9th, On the rock use the distortion,on the country play it clean. works for me. YOU BETCHA, DYK?BC.
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William Hoff


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Missouri, USA
Post  Posted 24 Nov 2009 3:59 am    
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I am using E9th on my far neck and an open D on the close one. So far those two are working great, but you know how it is, I wish I had a T-8 now.
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