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Topic: A message For Nick Reed PP nope |
Ernest Cawby
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Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 12 Nov 2009 12:22 am |
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I played Jack Dougherty's Emmons PP twice today at Panasoffkee, My Williams plays better, nuf said.
Sides dat I'm getting a Rack and Barrel Professional.
eat them taters pal..lol
ernie |
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Jimmie Martin
From:
Ohio, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2009 3:48 am pp
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You told them Ernie.  |
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Roger Crawford
From:
Griffin, GA USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2009 5:24 am
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| I just knowed ole Earn warnt gonna git a push-me pull-you gittar. You rock,dude. |
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Jack Dougherty
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Spring Hill, Florida, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2009 9:09 am
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There's more to this than he's telling.......
He was having a time with the knee levers...too far for his short legs 
So to set the record straight....it wasn't the arrows.
Ole Ern just needs more quality time with that classy PP. 
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There is no such thing as too many steels!!
Emmons P/P 8/7 Strings....whatever I have.....Picks..mixed...Bars...one of four..but I like the Bullet Bar
Walker Stereo Steel Amp
TC M1 XL
Peavey Nashville 400. Fox Mod
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Nick Reed
From:
Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2009 1:33 pm
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Ernie,
Your loss Pal. . . .sorry you couldn't experience what the BEST really is.
Nick |
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Fred Thompson
From:
Zephyrhills, FL
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Posted 12 Nov 2009 2:39 pm
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Hey Ernie, you sure sounded good on that PP
Somehow, when Jack plays it, it sounds like a Zum 
Fred |
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Jack Dougherty
From:
Spring Hill, Florida, USA
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Posted 12 Nov 2009 3:38 pm
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Fred....
OUCH!!!!! |
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Nick Reed
From:
Russellville, KY USA
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Shorty Smith
From:
Columbus, Georgia, USA
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Posted 13 Nov 2009 6:53 pm
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Ernest, you just need to get use to the action of a P/P, love you buddy, Shorty, here is mine, what a beauty, 73 model, had it since 73
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 13 Nov 2009 7:03 pm hi
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Shorty sure miss seeing you been to long.
ernie |
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Nick Reed
From:
Russellville, KY USA
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Posted 14 Nov 2009 6:59 pm
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| you tell him Shorty. . . . . . |
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 15 Nov 2009 9:21 pm
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I don't think anyone really dislikes the P/P for what it is or sounds like! It's not a case of what you can do on a P/P, but; rather the many things that you can't do! It's outdated, that's all! What it does, it does well! If it does everything to fit your playing style and abilities, then it's quite sufficient for you!
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Danny Bates
From:
Fresno, CA. USA
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Posted 15 Nov 2009 10:21 pm
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Ernie said:
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| I'm getting a Rack and Barrel Professional |
Ain't nothing wrong with that!
You go Ernie!  |
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Larry Bressington
From:
Nebraska
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Posted 16 Nov 2009 7:24 pm
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I played a 'push pull' for a while, i never heard the 'mojo' thing, it's in the player man, not the guitar! 
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Frank Parish
From:
Nashville,Tn. USA
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Posted 17 Nov 2009 5:39 am
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| There is indeed a lot of MOJO in the Emmons p/p guitar. Lots of great guitars out there and I play the Carter for the most part but it's the weight factor that I play it most for. The p/p is just a better sounding instrument! |
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Fred Thompson
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Zephyrhills, FL
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Posted 19 Nov 2009 4:22 pm
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John Bechtel, you are one smart critter! 
Fred |
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Tommy Shown
From:
Denham Springs, La.
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Posted 22 Nov 2009 12:09 pm
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Sorry you feel that way, I have a '77 PP Emmons. And I wouldn't trade for all of the money in the world.
The action is great and the sound is unbelievably clean. You can have your Williams. But I am going to have to agree with Nick on this. The best steel ever made was the Emmons Push Pull, HANDS DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tommy Shown
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Damir Besic
From:
Nashville,TN.
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Posted 22 Nov 2009 5:05 pm
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| John Bechtel wrote: |
| It's not a case of what you can do on a P/P, but; rather the many things that you can't do! |
I agree... I just wish I could do few of those things Buddy did, I`m not worried about the many others he couldn`t do...
Db
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Nov 2009 5:38 pm
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My point being: It seems everyone nowadays wants to try so many new ideas that just can't be done with a p/p guitar. If it wasn't for the more modern all-pull system, PSG playing styles would not be near as far advanced as they are today! I'm not saying if that's good or bad, but; I think it's a reasonable point to ponder. If you are an “Advanced Player”, aren't you fortunate?
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Damir Besic
From:
Nashville,TN.
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Posted 22 Nov 2009 6:57 pm
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if you ask me, I think that music played on PP years ago, was much more complicated than todays steel music we hear on radio...but anywho, I just don`t see how complicated music relates to the beauty of music itself...? I don`t think that 10 knee levers can make better music than 1... Paganini had only 4 strings on his violine and he was a virtuoso... I believe that PP guitars are able to provide much more tehnicly than what any of us here can do musicly, and nobody can tell me that they mastered 2 necks ,20 strings,8 pedals and 4 knee levers and now they are limited because their PP guitar don`t have a 9th pedal or 5th knee lever... that would be the bigest pile a crap I ever heard... Lloyd Green played some of the most beautiful steel guitar music ever recorded,on his one neck with 3 pedals and 4 knee levers...wasn`t his playing complicated enough for you? can you play like Lloyd Green? could you play like Lloyd Green if you had 14 strings and 10 pedals with 9 knee levers?
Db
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I don`t think that pedal steel guitar advanced in any way, I actualy think that has been actually stagnating for quite some time now...there is 10-15 licks you hear on every top 40 country song on radio today...these must be the best times for lazy players because all they have to do is to learn thos few licks of of CD and they can get a job in any Chesney/Swift band they want...
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John Bechtel
From:
Nashville, Tennessee, R.I.P.
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Posted 22 Nov 2009 9:05 pm
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Well then, lets just say the modern all-pull system allows us, of lesser ability; to display our abilities as some of the greats do on their p/p instruments. What makes one player better than another?
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<marquee> Go~Daddy~Go, (No), Go, It's your Break Time</marquee> L8R, jb
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Damir Besic
From:
Nashville,TN.
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Posted 23 Nov 2009 1:02 am
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| What makes one player better than another? |
wrong question, we should ask "what makes one player different from another" ...in the world of art (any art) we can`t ask "who is better" because art is very personal thing and ability of one person to expres itself, Picasso was not better than Da Vinci, it was just different, now, we personaly,can like one style better than the other but that doesn`t mean that one artist is "better" than the other...same is in the world of music...I`m just not buying arguments that someones playing is limited by his instrument.... more splits,pedals,knee levers etc... may give you a different changes but they wont improve your ability to express yourself, no matter how fancy or "modern" your instrument is... JMHO
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| I played Jack Dougherty's Emmons PP twice today at Panasoffkee, My Williams plays better |
can only be taken for what they are , a simple joke and maybe thing of a personal preference and that`s it ... if anyone has any doubts about performance quality of a push pull guitar , only thing he has to do is to find a "black album" by Buddy Emmons ... nuf said ...
Db
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Ernest Cawby
From:
Lake City, Florida, USA, R.I.P.
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Posted 23 Nov 2009 5:57 am Hi
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Jerry did a prety good job on just 6 STRINGS.
ERNIE |
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Tommy Shown
From:
Denham Springs, La.
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Posted 23 Nov 2009 8:58 pm
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I have found the Push Pull plays the way,my old Sho-Bud played. I mean there is more work in tuning it,(i.e. ) you tune the strings down at the end plate. To tune it open, but as far as playing one, it's easy to me.But that is my humble opinion.
Tommy Shown
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