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John A. Russell

 

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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 12:20 pm    
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Has anyone out there ever met an unkind steel Player?
Even as a beginner I have met many, many steel guitar players, like: -

Mike Johnson.
Brilliant. And Very friendly

The Great John Hughey.
Spoke to me Like a long-time Friend, met him a few months before his death.
I was introduced by Scotty Sanders, another Steeler I met at a session.

Paul Franklin,
Very gracious unassuming and friendly

Guys on the Forum
Like, Erv, Mike Mcgee, Ron Elliott. Mike Headrick.

My great friend David Hartley.
Who has helped me so much.

So you guys, if you have stories of Steel Guitarist you'd like to mention. please post them.

Kind Regards to everyone

John
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John Drury


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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 12:29 pm    
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Only one.
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Ben Lawson

 

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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 12:38 pm    
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I agree. The bigger they are it seems like they are more approachable and tolerant of us "nobodys". Maybe if I was a nice guy I could play better???
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 1:05 pm    
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Yeah, gracious folks with few exceptions. Steel guitar players of all levels are generally really fine people.

I'll never forget running into Pee Wee Whitewing at the ISGC a few years back.

He sat down with me in the snack area and talked to me as if he'd known me forever. What a fine man. There have been others as well. Speedy West, for another.

Generally, I'm a little timid about engaging my steel guitar heroes in chit chat, but those times that I did were mostly on the positive side. They're just like the rest of us except they play better!
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Bob Farlow

 

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Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 2:20 pm    
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Ben, you are a nice guy, and you play very well.
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Gordon Borland


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San Antonio, Texas, USA
Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 3:09 pm     Humble
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I think the nature of the pedal steel guitar is prone to humble folks especially those that get good at it.
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Rick Campbell


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Sneedville, TN, USA
Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 3:11 pm    
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I don't think this is anything unique to steel players. I've known hundreds of musicians and 99% of them are nice guys. Of the 1% that fell short, there were as many steel players in the bunch as others.

I believe most people in general are nice guys, musicians or not, but when someone gets out of line they are quick to get pointed at for it. We tend to focus more on negative conduct than positive, that's just human nature. Look at the Ten Commandmants.... more "shalt nots" than positives.

This is a good place for me to mention the new term I learned here on the forum: "leg humping"

Come on!!! If you're in a position of performing in front of, and dealing with, the public, then you have an obligation to be polite and courteous to those you come into contact with. I don't see why anyone should deserve a medal for that. It's just part of being a professional and decent person. The smart ones realize that us 'nobodies" are paying their wages, and you don't bite the hand that feeds you.

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Pete Conklin


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Austin, TX
Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 3:42 pm     Great thread!
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Marc Friedland has been extremely gracious and helpful to me.
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David Hartley

 

Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 4:14 pm     Well?
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Bob Haskell would be kinder if he bought me more beer whenever I see him. He would be more helpful if he carried my gear in and out to the gig too.. Smile

Tony Smart
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Don Hinkle


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Springfield Illinois, USA
Post  Posted 26 Oct 2009 6:39 pm    
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I have met only a handfull of players in person, but have talked with several from this website and all have been wonderful except for one that I met years before I even thought about playing steel.

I agree with what someone said earlier in this post. In that most steelers by nature are kind, sharing and giving. Its not our fault that we play the most complicated instrument and are generally smarter and better looking than most other musicians. Ya, we are humble too!

Don
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Roual Ranes

 

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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 5:26 am    
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It seems to me that the better picker they are......the nicer they are.
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Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 6:57 am    
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Steel guitar is too narrow a view of a person’s life to judge.
Have you ever noticed how the nicest guy in the neighborhood turns out to be the serial killer?
A steel player might look more like a serial killer if you tried to talk to them while they were trying to replace a broken string on a Sho-Bud.
I’m just trying to be kind and helpful.
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Cal Sharp


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 7:12 am    
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Have you ever noticed how the nicest guy in the neighborhood turns out to be the serial killer?

Actually, no. Serial killers usually fit the "disturbed loner" profile. "He was a quiet man," a neighbor says to a TV reporter while the cops are in the background digging up bodies out of the guy's basement. "Nobody knew him very well."

Exceptions, of course, like John Wayne Gacy, who had a friendly, outgoing personality. Geez, he was a clown.

AFAIK there haven't been any serial killers who were steel players. Yet.
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George McLellan


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Duluth, MN USA
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 7:59 am    
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I could be wrong, but didn't someone a while back say that Charlie Manson played, or was interested in lap steel?

Geo
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Austin Tripp

 

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Nashville TN
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 8:13 am    
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I have never met a steel player with a bad personality. Paul Franklin is superb, and when I first came to Nashville, I met Bobbe Seymour, he is the nicest friend you can have.
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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 8:16 am    
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I remember some talk of that, George. Don't know anymore.

Back to the original question:
Yes, I've met a few (3?) that needed a personality transplant. Considering I've met 100s, I'd say we're a rather friendly group.

I think we all realize the skill and effort it takes to pursue PSG, so we have respect for others.
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Cal Sharp


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 8:18 am    
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Good grief, you're right, George.

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Manson was again arrested on June 1, 1960 and sent to the McNeil Island Penitentiary off the coast of Washington. His wife soon divorced him.
Manson spent the next six years in prison. It was during this time that he befriended the infamous Alvin "Creepy" Karpis, former member of Ma Barker's gang. After Karpis taught Charles Manson to play the steel guitar, Manson became obsessed with making music.

So Alvin Karpis played, too. Manson did have a friendly, outgoing personality Shocked
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Jerry Overstreet


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Louisville Ky
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 8:25 am    
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Yikes! Manson and Karpis? Shocked
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Joey Ace


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Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 8:31 am     I'll bet he was "helpful".
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See, Karpis helped Charlie.
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Cal Sharp


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 8:39 am    
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Gee, the things you can learn in prison... I had to learn steel guitar in nasty old bars and honky tonks.
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Willis Vanderberg


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 10:22 am    
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Hey Guy's
It wasn't always this way. I remember when a lot of pickers guarded their tunings and would cover up the guitar so you couldn't even see it.One big name used to detune a few strings when he had to leave his horn set, so you couldn't makes sense of it even if you plucked the strings.Thankfully those days are gone and we are blessed with great folks and this wonderful forum.
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Mark van Allen


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Watkinsville, Ga. USA
Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 6:42 pm    
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See, Karpis helped Charlie.


Dang, that's funny.
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W. C. Edgar


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Post  Posted 27 Oct 2009 7:48 pm    
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I have met one guy that wasn't kind. When I first started playing steel I ask him "hey" can you show me that lick and he replied "no" then you'd know how to play it too. I went on to distance myself from him as far as ability very quickly and have never looked back. Now that I think about it he only had a bag of about two licks. At the time I thought it was something Chalker might have played but the more I progressed I realized that it sounded more like something Pete Drake might have played on the back neck to sound like Chalker.
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Stuart Legg


Post  Posted 29 Oct 2009 1:11 am    
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Did you ever think maybe most of the great steel players are so friendly and graciously share their licks because they think we won't be able to play them anyway?
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George McLellan


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Duluth, MN USA
Post  Posted 29 Oct 2009 2:30 am    
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A lot of the great players have audio and/or video coarses showing how they do some of their licks. Yes, I know, it's not the same as them sitting down with you and showing you in person but they still do offer you the opertunity to "see how it's done". Whether you can do it or not is another thing.

Geo
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