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Topic: Set up for playing guitar and steel |
Ken Metcalf
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San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2009 9:09 am |
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I have seen some guys asking what works for playing pedal steel and guitar.
I have found this rig will do a pretty good job.
It is the set up I used for the Austin Steel Guitar Co-op Jam
My new Walker SS Pre-amp. Stewart World 1.2 Two JBL D-130s, Lexicon MX-200, Stroborack.
and for my Telecaster a couple of Fender Twins from the 60s.
Man it is quite a thrill playing Tele through 2 Twins.
This could be a Texas style set up... ^_^
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
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Ben Jones
From:
Seattle, Washington, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2009 9:53 am
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twin twins?  |
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Tony Prior
From:
Charlotte NC
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Posted 12 Oct 2009 11:35 am Re: Set up for playing guitar and steel
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Man it is quite a thrill playing Tele through 2 Twins.
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thats nuts, nobody needs more than a Nashville 112 
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Geoff Cline
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Southwest France
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Posted 12 Oct 2009 11:37 am
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Ken:
Dude! Sure, you must great sounds but your "cartage load" is extreme. There aren't that many stages in Austin that can handle that rig, let alone moving night after night (I'm guessing you don't use that rig upstairs at Momos ). It reminds me of what Jerry Garcia said when asked why the Grateful Dead shows were so long. He said "When you carry as much stuff as we do, it doesn't make ANY sense to set it up and play for an hour...or even two."
Still I'm sure it sounds GUUUUUUUUD. Good on ya! |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2009 4:20 pm
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If I'm in a lazy mood I take the Nash 112, but it's covered in alligator hide, So there
I was going to sell one of the Twins and I just wanted to play with two before it was gone....
But after playing through them.... I am NOT going to sell, just have to get a 3rd job...^_^
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Geoff Cline
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Southwest France
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Posted 12 Oct 2009 4:44 pm
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| Ken Metcalf wrote: |
If I'm in a lazy mood I take the Nash 112, but it's covered in alligator hide, So there
I was going to sell one of the Twins and I just wanted to play with two before it was gone....
But after playing through them.... I am NOT going to sell, just have to get a 3rd job...^_^ |
And you'll be in good shape (as long as you lift with your legs...)! |
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Shane Glover
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 12 Oct 2009 6:05 pm
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Hey Ken
Everyone tells me I am crazy for haulin around the gear I do. But ya gotta have enough P.A. to thump. And I would buy a pack mule before I left my Boogie at home.I bet people are tellin ya to turn down before you even flip the switch !!
Turn that Mutha up !!  |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 13 Oct 2009 3:46 am
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I have owned a bunch of different Twins and always heard that the master volume thing is the same as non master if you turn up the master volume.
I don't know if it's the AB736 circuit or what but there is a big difference in that they are just more musically friendly. With a newer twin people tell you to turn down but with a non master more often people tell me to turn up.
Of course I do not normally drag 2 twins around with me and that actually was the first time I did that.
It really is a monster for the clean tone, I like it.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes |
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Ben Godard
From:
Jamesville NC
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Posted 13 Oct 2009 12:15 pm
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The way I use to do it is I had two separate systems in my rack which used one common power amp. I designed it where I had a 2 TPDT toggle switches to switch from the guitar circuit to the steel circuit. So all I had to do was switch the two switches and hit the stomp pedal which switched my steel input over to guitar. This took a little bit of work since I used a 25pin connector and had to solder all the connections but it was worth it. This was a true bypass system. Both circuits were totally isolated by the switches.
Anyway, the steel guitar, I played it through my MB studio preamp and a Lexicon MPX1 at switch position 1. At switch position 2 the input would go straight to my tubefex.
Both of these used a common power amp which is my Mosvalve 500. But only one circuit cicuit at a time of course. |
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Ken Metcalf
From:
San Antonio Texas USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 4:42 am Re: Set up for playing guitar and steel
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| Tony Prior wrote: |
| Ken Metcalf wrote: |
Man it is quite a thrill playing Tele through 2 Twins.
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thats nuts, nobody needs more than a Nashville 112 |
One thing I have found about this is, although 20 feet out in the audience, A stereo or two amp set up does not sound much different to the audience.
From the players vantage point it sounds a lot different.
If the player is jazzed up and very happy with his tone it translates into a better performance.
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MSA 12 String E9th/B6th Universal.
Little Walter PF-89.
Bunch of stomp boxes
Last edited by Ken Metcalf on 15 Oct 2009 12:50 pm; edited 1 time in total |
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Herb Steiner
From:
Briarcliff TX 78669, pop. 2,064
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 11:13 am
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When I was in the Bandoleros, Johnny Bush, Ricky Turpin, and I all used Peavey Vegas 400's, which are dual channel amps and one of the best steel guitar amps Peavey ever made.
Since Rick and Bush played both fiddle and guitar, the two channels were perfect for them, one each for fiddle/guitar. I liked the amp because it had a N'ville 400 guts in a large cabinet amp.
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Son, we live in a world with walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with steel guitars. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lt. Weinberg? |
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Shane Glover
From:
Oklahoma, USA
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Posted 15 Oct 2009 4:58 pm
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Amen Ken !!
If my tone is in the zone & the band is rockin the crowd always digs it. On the ohter hand if you are fiddlin with your amp all night it's a downer for everyone. If you don't like it -- it shows.
Shane |
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