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Topic: Emmons D10 - 1970 P/P -- Changer parts |
Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 4:00 am |
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Any Idea where I can get the 303 stainless steel axle, and 4 fingers for the E9 changer?
I don't think that the changer has been worked on since 1970.....The 3rd, 4th, 5th and possibly the 6th fingers are already way out of alignment, and I reckon the wear on the axle must have left the finger axle-holes worn as well.
I know the normal approach would be to turn the axle, but if I'm going to go to all the trouble to get to the axle, I must just as well replace the worn parts, one time.
Eagerly awaiting your replies.
Regards,
Nic
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Billy Knowles
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Kenansville, N. C. 28349 usa
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 5:06 am parts
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The Emmons factory has these parts available.
You can go on the web sit and email them or call them.
Thanks
BIlly |
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Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 5:11 am
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Thanks, Billy.
I'll email them..... |
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J Fletcher
From:
London,Ont,Canada
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 7:27 am
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| I replaced my PP axle with a part ordered from Emmons. Cost $22 as I recall. For some reason it was a bit oversized, and had to be machined to reduce the diameter. But that's another story. You might want to order some spacers that go between the fingers,at the same time, if there's too much play side to side...Jerry |
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 9:13 am
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Nic
Are you sure that Emmons did not use drill rod in 1970?
303 stainless is easy to machine, for stainless, which also means it is easy to wear out or groove. |
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Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 11 Sep 2009 9:59 am
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Chris, thanks for the heads-up on the 303 stainless steel. I've sent Ron Lashley an email via the Emmons website, and hope to hear from them soon.
Jerry, your comment regarding the diameter is interesting! Let's see where my correspondence with Emmons leads me.....
I was wondering about the spacers, and now that you also mentioned it I will enquire about that as well. Might as well do a proper service on the changer.
Thanks guys, for your comments.....I appreciate that.
Regards,
Nic |
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Nic du Toit
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Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 14 Sep 2009 12:45 pm
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No reply from Ron, yet........ But I'll hang in there for a bit.
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Bent Romnes
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London,Ontario, Canada
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Posted 16 Sep 2009 6:38 pm
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I am under the impression that the Emmons changer axle is un-treated drill rod. In other words it is nice straight rod - that it totally soft. Why is drill rod like this? So you can machine the drill and then harden it.
In other words, drill rod is no better than ordinary steel. And if Emmons uses un-hardened rod, no wonder they wear out.
Hardened drill rod would be so hard that you wouldn't be able to machine it. Jerry Fletcher was able to machine his. This makes me suspect that the rod as it comes from Emmons is not hardened. Some proof of this is the fact that the axle gets gouges worn in it from the aluminum fingers, a softer metal than the softest steel. Therefor, if I am correct in this assumption, 303 stainless steel would be a better choice.
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Chris Lucker
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Los Angeles, California USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2009 8:21 pm
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If you like the sound of stainless, I guess you could use 303.
If you like the sound of an Emmons, why change the features that are responsible for the sound?
It is pretty easy to use the original material. |
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Jerry Roller
From:
Van Buren, Arkansas USA
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Posted 16 Sep 2009 9:19 pm
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It also seems very logical to me to use a softer axle and let it wear than have the much more expensive aluminum changer fingers wear out. This is one reason Emmons and some others use unhardened axles.
Jerry |
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Tony Glassman
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The Great Northwest
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Posted 16 Sep 2009 10:41 pm
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Exactly!......makes perfect sense.
Last edited by Tony Glassman on 17 Sep 2009 6:33 am; edited 1 time in total |
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Tony Glassman
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The Great Northwest
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Posted 16 Sep 2009 10:43 pm xx
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double-post...sorry
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Nic du Toit
From:
Milnerton, Cape, South Africa
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Posted 17 Sep 2009 1:17 am
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Thanks for the comments, guys.
I received an email from Bobbie at Emmons, saying Ron will get back to me this coming Monday..... It also says that the parts are available. I'll ask Ron about the axle and fingers, and will report back in this thread.
And yes, I do like my Emmons the way it sounds, and would rather stick to the recommended parts, if possible.
Bent, I get your point, But I reckon the guys at Emmons have been in the game a long time, and should by now know enough about building steels!
For me it is just very frustrating to have to be without my second wife for so long. 
I do appreciate all your contributions, though.
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